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purecat
12-08-2003, 12:18 AM
Just want to see if religion has any correlation to your beliefs in the supernatural stuff ?

jakob
12-08-2003, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by purecat
Just want to see if religion has any correlation to your beliefs in the supernatural stuff ?

i doubt it. cos my parents were never the superstitious kind. i could ask them about funerals, they never minded me looking at the photo of the person gone or the funeral processions either.

i was always allowed to go swimming and go home as late as i wanted during the 7th month.

and the supernatural stuff? i jus read it up myself or derive my own conclusions and thoughts on stuff... cos i dont think there really is a definite answer on things like these, everyone has a different opinion and thoughts on superstitions and supernatural stuff ;)

:btw: im a taoist ;)

nexonn
12-08-2003, 12:25 AM
i believe in aliens and gods r actually aliens which had visited us in the past..

then people started to worship them because they flew around in their flying machines.. (now we also have lah: helicoptor, planes, but last time people stupid and worship tham onli) :cool:

fOrKiE
12-08-2003, 12:26 AM
I buddhist :) but like got some connections to Taoist oso... :think:
Quite alot chinese oso like tis ba cos when buddhism is intro into china..
So i kinda mix ba lolx... But my family practise more on Buddism so i choose tis..
Hmmmm supernatural yes i beleaf ba......

purecat
12-08-2003, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by nexonn
i believe in aliens and gods r actually aliens which had visited us in the past..

then people started to worship them because they flew around in their flying machines.. (now we also have lah: helicoptor, planes, but last time people stupid and worship tham onli) :cool:

so u believe in aliens..... hmm.... this is dunno loh.

ufos >>> i think can be some secret weapons that the us army has invented and kep secret from all ?

but then cannot explain those alien corpse found leh.

purecat
12-08-2003, 12:30 AM
btw i am buddhist. i believe in supernatural stuff.
hmmm.... i am not superstitious just a belief bah.....

nexonn
12-08-2003, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by purecat
so u believe in aliens..... hmm.... this is dunno loh.

ufos >>> i think can be some secret weapons that the us army has invented and kep secret from all ?

but then cannot explain those alien corpse found leh. i think those who think that we (earthlings) r alone r very self-centered people lor.. the universe so big u really think onli 1 planet have living things?

btw, fyi, every stars u see up there is actually a sun which have its own solar system, maybe in its solar system also got 1 planet with living things..

sorri.. i think out of topic liao.. pai sai..

kikasa
12-08-2003, 12:53 AM
freethinker.... :D

educated ah lian
12-08-2003, 01:09 AM
I'm not Christian. I Christ-nan how? :p

yeo
12-08-2003, 01:18 AM
i do consider myself free thinker....even though i do help out in a taoist temple.....go to a buddhist temple....believe in buddhist teaching.... went to church with friend and relative.....

maybe i consider myself as free thinker cos i believe in all the religion .....but i onli respect those religons who teaches their followers to be good ...... as for the rest.... i wont condem or disrepect them..... i just let them be as wat they choose to be.....

one more things is tat some good religion do have black sheep in them....not purposely use their religon to cause harm but just tat they have too extremist thinking until condem the other religon...tat i oso wont agree with it

personally i onli believe all good religon is tryin to guide their followers to the same goal....tats is to be good....just tat each religion have their own way in doing it

tats why i oso believe in peace among race, religion, country and all ppl.......peace!!! haha

kim_hwoarang
12-08-2003, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by kikasa69
freethinker.... :D ur body free to enter by those !
:D for mi, actually mi more 2 "Tao Jiao". cause can eat meat but avoid beef. reason why beef is we chinese pray Guan Yin or Buddha also, they belongs 2 "Fuo Jiao". Hindu also eat meat but not beef ! studied history of Buddhism before ? some of them related to India. ie, Journey 2 The West. remem the retriveing those "Scriptures" from india ? =P

kikasa
12-08-2003, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by kim_hwoarang
ur body free to enter by those !
:D for mi, actually mi more 2 "Tao Jiao". cause can eat meat but avoid beef. reason why beef is we chinese pray Guan Yin or Buddha also, they belongs 2 "Fuo Jiao". Hindu also eat meat but not beef ! studied history of Buddhism before ? some of them related to India. ie, Journey 2 The West. remem the retriveing those "Scriptures" from india ? =P

actually i hav some japanese origin.... my mother say my great-grandfather is a japanese, coming to china to work as merchant in 1910s.... well alot japanese are freethinker due to the tokugawa shogun rules....

extendkia
12-08-2003, 10:22 PM
i am from Singapore Soka Association... well i do belief in spirits & life after death coz i see before ....

howeva i am not superstitutuous & well .. juz live life to the max man~

firey
12-08-2003, 10:31 PM
free thinkier here..
sometimes..i abit envy those religious pple..iz lik dey hab something to fall back on..
but i dun hab the 'heart' to go n try it

. lala .
12-08-2003, 10:50 PM
Christian. :laugh: Have no choice but to believe. Unless I'm convinced I was just hallucinating. :p

kerpalz
13-08-2003, 09:16 PM
as for me.... becoz i was actually a buddhist for 19 hard core years.....b4 i start no offences....then now a christian..... converted to one becoz i was saved from a drug overdosage...

qutie_10
14-08-2003, 02:24 AM
dunno i'm like in the middle of believer and non-believer dunno which path i have to choose:(

ChRiSta
14-08-2003, 04:14 PM
I am a Christian :D

Well.. if i believe there's a GOD, there's satan too...

So, got satan = got ghosts lar... which are the group of fallen angels which fell with satan to hell...

Ummmz.. i believe there are ghosts, but these ghost are not the after life of dead humans. After dying, humans will fall into deep sleep and wait for judgement day~

Then ppl will ask howcome the ghost can "look" (if u can see) or "sound" (if u go ask the gods) so much like my pass away relative/friend... Well, ghosts/satan are in the 5th dimension.. we are in the 3rd dimenson. They more superior then us,, of cos know more abt us lar.... and can see the future and the past..

:btw: the dimension thingy should be correct if i never remember wrongly... :D

CrAzYbOi
14-08-2003, 04:45 PM
|'m a freethinker...

aiyah... dun need to worry bout these things lah... ghost/ spirits are dead human... den human are those spirits who haben die... :p :blah:

hellow
14-08-2003, 05:47 PM
i vote others...
coz i hav no religion... and no, i am now no longer the usual 'freethinker'... y? coz i dun wan any christians or ppl frm other religion to say that i freethinker the same as that of Free manson (dunno correct person or spelling or not).

. lala .
14-08-2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by hellow
i vote others...
coz i hav no religion... and no, i am now no longer the usual 'freethinker'... y? coz i dun wan any christians or ppl frm other religion to say that i freethinker the same as that of Free manson (dunno correct person or spelling or not).

Er. Sorry. Guess that person was me. :ls: I was just saying that they originated from there. Well, I'll just zip. :ls: :)

hellow
14-08-2003, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by . lala .
Er. Sorry. Guess that person was me. :ls: I was just saying that they originated from there. Well, I'll just zip. :ls: :)

no lah.. not refering to u lah.. dun sweat it;)

i was told of that by my other frens that are hard-core christians... :laugh:

. lala .
15-08-2003, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by hellow
no lah.. not refering to u lah.. dun sweat it;)

i was told of that by my other frens that are hard-core christians... :laugh:

Orh. :sweat: :)

hellow
15-08-2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by . lala .
Orh. :sweat: :)

lax lah... u hav yur own beliefs, i hav mine, and other ppl hav theirs...

to each his own.... :D

:laugh:

DarK`AngL
15-08-2003, 05:51 PM
Basically i pray to Guan yin but also believe in witchcraft and wicca. However, ive been in a christian school since i was young but dun believe lo. Still find it hard to believe that adam and eve were created cos i tink it's soo long ago and since they r e first ppl born, how was all these recorded?Actually find christianity and islam similar in a way. No offence to christians and muslims out there

yeo
16-08-2003, 12:29 AM
actually all religion started by some great one.....and above this great one....there is someone to create this world....

so personally i felt different religion, though have different way of getting their teaching to their follower, is basically similar to each other......who knows...it might be to the same "big boss" up there .......

tats y i respect each religion the same way i respect the one i believe in.......

. lala .
16-08-2003, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by yeo
actually all religion started by some great one.....and above this great one....there is someone to create this world....

so personally i felt different religion, though have different way of getting their teaching to their follower, is basically similar to each other......who knows...it might be to the same "big boss" up there .......

tats y i respect each religion the same way i respect the one i believe in.......

What do you believe in? :confused:

ReNeDEx
16-08-2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by yeo
actually all religion started by some great one.....and above this great one....there is someone to create this world....

so personally i felt different religion, though have different way of getting their teaching to their follower, is basically similar to each other......who knows...it might be to the same "big boss" up there .......

tats y i respect each religion the same way i respect the one i believe in.......

i agreed with u...
for me i feel the teachings of each religion is almost the same...
i am interested in supernatural stuff is because i like to know whether there is really 'life' after death...

yeo
16-08-2003, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by . lala .
What do you believe in? :confused:

wat i believe in??? alot leh.....believe in retribution....do good get good....do bad get bad......which is the teaching of almost all good religion.....

anyway i personally go to taoist temple....like the teaching of buddhism .... but if got chance to go to any other good religion's holy place(temple, hindu temple etc).... i oso will pay my respect to their gods one

anyway don confuse lah.... those tat i said is just one of my believe.....if u know wat i mean then read ..... if not then ignore it ...hahahh

yeo
16-08-2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by ReNeDEx
i agreed with u...
for me i feel the teachings of each religion is almost the same...
i am interested in supernatural stuff is because i like to know whether there is really 'life' after death...

actually know or not know is not important.... cos unless u experienced it, u wont really know.... just concentrate on what u are now lor..... life after death is actually like "tomorrow".... do u know wat is going to happen tomorrow??.... u don, rite? ....so why worry abt "life after death"....concentrate on now first is better .....


anyway me onli know how to say onli..... but don really practice it myself hahahha....but i do believe tat instead of goin to explore wat u wont get to know...why don u make the full use of the current thing..... just my worthless thoughts hheheheheh

kim_hwoarang
17-08-2003, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by DarK`AngL
Basically i pray to Guan yin but also believe in witchcraft and wicca. However, ive been in a christian school since i was young but dun believe lo. Still find it hard to believe that adam and eve were created cos i tink it's soo long ago and since they r e first ppl born, how was all these recorded?Actually find christianity and islam similar in a way. No offence to christians and muslims out there why always Christian & Islam in other countries cannot get along well huh ? always fighting. funny ! religion tension. :bw:

reiepl
17-08-2003, 03:25 PM
buddhist here....last time taoist now change liao....

speedstar25
17-08-2003, 03:41 PM
Me also buddhist....When free will go to the kwan yin temple at middle road to pray...Heard its a good temple for those sincere....;)

DarK`AngL
17-08-2003, 04:15 PM
middle road? middle road near where?

ReNeDEx
17-08-2003, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by DarK`AngL
middle road? middle road near where?

yah man where is it??
i heard tat the kuan yin temple at si ma lu very accurate but nv heard any from middle road...

. lala .
17-08-2003, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by kim_hwoarang
why always Christian & Islam in other countries cannot get along well huh ? always fighting. funny ! religion tension. :bw:

Cos of the Bible and Quran. In fact, sooner or later, Judaism, Christianity and Islam might be the undoing of the society. :(

amoro
17-08-2003, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by . lala .
Cos of the Bible and Quran. In fact, sooner or later, Judaism, Christianity and Islam might be the undoing of the society. :(

hmmmm.... :think:
wat u mean by tat?

. lala .
17-08-2003, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by amoro
hmmmm.... :think:
wat u mean by tat?

I mean, someday these 3 freaking similar religions that shares a similar book which are the top 3 religions, might one day clash. Christians have persecuted the Jews. Christians have persecuted the Muslims. Muslims have also persecuted the 2. Sooner or later, thing will just go downhill cos of this 3 religions.

amoro
17-08-2003, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by . lala .
I mean, someday these 3 freaking similar religions that shares a similar book which are the top 3 religions, might one day clash. Christians have persecuted the Jews. Christians have persecuted the Muslims. Muslims have also persecuted the 2. Sooner or later, thing will just go downhill cos of this 3 religions.

OIC.... :D
Me rather have love n peace :laugh:

iamhappy_80
17-08-2003, 11:53 PM
i heard somewhere, that whenall the jews come together, that is the end of the world?
btw, i am a free thinker...i believe in alittle of ALL the religion.

. lala .
18-08-2003, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by amoro
OIC.... :D
Me rather have love n peace :laugh:

Who don't wish to have them? But it's cos of love and peace that there's hatred and chaos. :)

Originally posted by iamhappy_80
i heard somewhere, that whenall the jews come together, that is the end of the world?
btw, i am a free thinker...i believe in alittle of ALL the religion.

Yes. There's such a hypothesis cos the Jews are afterall, God's chosen people. :)

hellow
18-08-2003, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by . lala .
Who don't wish to have them? But it's cos of love and peace that there's hatred and chaos. :)



Yes. There's such a hypothesis cos the Jews are afterall, God's chosen people. :)

really ah?? when all jews gather @ one place will lead to the end of the world ah??

no wonder hitler wanna kill them all....

kikasa
18-08-2003, 02:15 AM
actually i read from somewhere, maybe based on biased point of view, muslims believe that their religion are much superior then christian cos Jesus, Moses etc all appeared in their Quran.... they dun eat pork becos of Jesus, driving a group of devil into the body of pig..... and also believed that Jesus are just a prophet or messenger to their GOD.... while the christian believe that Jesus is GOD, their savior of something.....

so muslim countries believe that the country main religion, christian or Jews go into the middle and work around with their affairs, of cos they bei song la....

no offence okie.... :D dun come wheck me hor.... just wat i read somewhere.....:D

. lala .
18-08-2003, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by hellow
really ah?? when all jews gather @ one place will lead to the end of the world ah??

no wonder hitler wanna kill them all....

That's what they believe but no one can know for sure. Alot of people persecuted the Jews. :)

Originally posted by kikasa69
actually i read from somewhere, maybe based on biased point of view, muslims believe that their religion are much superior then christian cos Jesus, Moses etc all appeared in their Quran.... they dun eat pork becos of Jesus, driving a group of devil into the body of pig..... and also believed that Jesus are just a prophet or messenger to their GOD.... while the christian believe that Jesus is GOD, their savior of something.....

so muslim countries believe that the country main religion, christian or Jews go into the middle and work around with their affairs, of cos they bei song la....

no offence okie.... :D dun come wheck me hor.... just wat i read somewhere.....:D

I hope there's no Muslims here. Er. In a way, ya. Christians, Jews and Catholics are actually not supposed to eat pork too but due to some intepretations, we are supposed to be able to.

I'm not sure if Muslims feel that they are more superior but their Qurans are all the same unlike the Christians.

Personally, I'm trying to keep away from pork.

Shnchn
18-08-2003, 05:10 AM
mi buddhist...
actually poll v lon ago liao..
but no reply post..
cos bz tt day..
:D

btw y keep awy fr pork??
nw i also seldom eat pork ..
dun knw y also
like c liao den no feeling to eat leh..

ChRiSta
18-08-2003, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by . lala .
I hope there's no Muslims here. Er. In a way, ya. Christians, Jews and Catholics are actually not supposed to eat pork too but due to some intepretations, we are supposed to be able to.

I'm not sure if Muslims feel that they are more superior but their Qurans are all the same unlike the Christians.

Personally, I'm trying to keep away from pork.

Hmmmz.. I eat everything leh.. including pork.
Maybe i find the verse another.. now is too EArly... yawnz... need to go to sch liao.

Sometimes even those food that i cannot avoid like 7th mth those "offerings" when i go my grandma's/ relatives house. Cos dun eat they will feel offended. Cannot possibly go and buy food when they prepared it for u mah.. But of course, i will avoid the latter as much as possible. And of cos, must pray before every meal lar...

kikasa
18-08-2003, 01:09 PM
after reading an email by MOH back in march, i also seldom eat pork liao..... they say that pork contain alot of microscopic worms or something and are usually still alive when brought from market..... and this worm are a threat to health....

anyway, it's okie la eating 7th month offering.... cos from wat i know, some buddhist or taosist eat beef especially the religion cannot take beef cos they believe that it contain the blood of Guan Yin......

fOrKiE
18-08-2003, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by kikasa69
anyway, it's okie la eating 7th month offering.... cos from wat i know, some buddhist or taosist eat beef especially the religion cannot take beef cos they believe that it contain the blood of Guan Yin......
Hmmm tis is new.... Blood of guan yin... how does beef got tis ?
I neber heard tis version of the myth b4....

kikasa
18-08-2003, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by fOrKiE
Hmmm tis is new.... Blood of guan yin... how does beef got tis ?
I neber heard tis version of the myth b4....

i also not beri show...this is wat my friend say lei.... she say that
some buddhist believe that cattle or cow contain blood or flesh of
guan yin since she allowed herself to be eaten up by the starving cattle....
this is wat i heard by i not beri sure cos i not buddhist

fOrKiE
18-08-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by kikasa69
i also not beri show...this is wat my friend say lei.... she say that
some buddhist believe that cattle or cow contain blood or flesh of
guan yin since she allowed herself to be eaten up by the starving cattle....
this is wat i heard by i not beri sure cos i not buddhist
the version I heard is abt guan yin convince a guy to reborn as a cattle...
Then She assure after all the hard work the cattle did....
When it grows old then the farmer will look after it...
But in the end the farmer kill the cattle n eat it then Guan yin beri :f:
So those who worship guan yin r not suppose to take beef...
This is the version i heard... :think:

kikasa
18-08-2003, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by fOrKiE
the version I heard is abt guan yin convince a guy to reborn as a cattle...
Then She assure after all the hard work the cattle did....
When it grows old then the farmer will look after it...
But in the end the farmer kill the cattle n eat it then Guan yin beri :f:
So those who worship guan yin r not suppose to take beef...
This is the version i heard... :think:

well yours is the new 1.... surely 100% nv heard of until now....:D
i think there is alot of folks stories regarding deities around....

hellow
18-08-2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by fOrKiE
the version I heard is abt guan yin convince a guy to reborn as a cattle...
Then She assure after all the hard work the cattle did....
When it grows old then the farmer will look after it...
But in the end the farmer kill the cattle n eat it then Guan yin beri :f:
So those who worship guan yin r not suppose to take beef...
This is the version i heard... :think:

this is wat i heard oso... and when the cattle is being slaughtered, its cries was heard even up in the heavens... the jade emporer was very enraged and ordered that anyone who whorships him oso cannot eat beef...

fOrKiE
18-08-2003, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by hellow
this is wat i heard oso... and when the cattle is being slaughtered, its cries was heard even up in the heavens... the jade emporer was very enraged and ordered that anyone who whorships him oso cannot eat beef...
yup yup Tis wat i heard oso...
Last time still got story books abt tis story :nod:

kikasa
18-08-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by fOrKiE
yup yup Tis wat i heard oso...
Last time still got story books abt tis story :nod:

but remember that hong kong journey to the west?? got 1 part they
say about guan yin story.... and also used to hav a family friend who was
a very devoted buddhist even claim that guan yin let it eat her becos it
was starving..... after eating guan yin, the cattle sweared never to eat meat
again and be a vegetarian.... even my friend said that.....:confused: :think:

fOrKiE
18-08-2003, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by kikasa69
but remember that hong kong journey to the west?? got 1 part they
say about guan yin story.... and also used to hav a family friend who was
a very devoted buddhist even claim that guan yin let it eat her becos it
was starving..... after eating guan yin, the cattle sweared never to eat meat
again and be a vegetarian.... even my friend said that.....:confused: :think:
Hmmm interesting.... :think: maybe i go read up more... :)

. lala .
18-08-2003, 11:13 PM
I don't know about the buddhist story. :confused: Never hear either before.

Er. I don't eat pork cos of some commandments. :)

Christa, it's in Leviticus I think. Can't remember the spelling. :ls:

IniQx
20-08-2003, 06:49 PM
im a freethinker. nt bound by any religion beliefs, prolly tatz y i believe tat ghosts exists :)

kim_hwoarang
20-08-2003, 10:20 PM
hey guys u're talking about the history of Guan Yin why buddhist cant eat beef ? i remem. i watched a hk drama show while i was still young regarding Guan Yin. i forget liao ! those u people mentioned above quite similar. It's true loh ! :cool:

yeo
20-08-2003, 11:58 PM
actually another possibile reason is tat buddhism originated from india tat area where they treat cow as holy animal..... so it might be a reason tat buddhist religion one dont eat cow....i refering to those tat not vegetarain,,,,

**Eggy**
21-08-2003, 11:32 PM
My parent say that cows are like our ancestor, thus we are not allowed to eat them.
Erm..my "we" refers to Buddisht...

othniel
25-08-2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by . lala .
I mean, someday these 3 freaking similar religions that shares a similar book which are the top 3 religions, might one day clash. Christians have persecuted the Jews. Christians have persecuted the Muslims. Muslims have also persecuted the 2. Sooner or later, thing will just go downhill cos of this 3 religions.


I disagree with you. Go and check Christianity through the centuries. See who are the ones who persecuted the Christians. Also, with the rise of Islam during the 7th century, many of the Christians states which were once ruled by the Romans were taken over by the muslims.

Judasim, Islam all does not look upon Jesus as the Son Of God. In fact, Christians are the MOST PERSECUTED throughout the centuries. Look at the Roman States. What happened to those reformist who tried to talk to the Popes and what happened when they have the Word of God?

Also, the fall of Christianity through out the 7th centuries onwards, was because of the lack of the workers of God, that is one of the factor. Secondly, Bibles during that time, was rare and only the Popes have it. By history FACTS, most of those who attained the post of Popes did not even have a single knowledge of Christianity. Those are the Roman Catholics...

Not going against any religion. We have the freedom to believe and to choose. HOwever, what I am doing and showing here is not my knowledge but base on the historical facts...

Do check it all out...

othniel
25-08-2003, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by kikasa
actually i read from somewhere, maybe based on biased point of view, muslims believe that their religion are much superior then christian cos Jesus, Moses etc all appeared in their Quran.... they dun eat pork becos of Jesus, driving a group of devil into the body of pig..... and also believed that Jesus are just a prophet or messenger to their GOD.... while the christian believe that Jesus is GOD, their savior of something.....

so muslim countries believe that the country main religion, christian or Jews go into the middle and work around with their affairs, of cos they bei song la....

no offence okie.... :D dun come wheck me hor.... just wat i read somewhere.....:D


Christians don't eat pork because of Jesus? Is there such a thing? Acts 11: 1- 30

In this entire passage, the Bible says in Acts 11: 6-9 that 'What God has cleansed you must not call common.' Yes, this vision of Paul do refers to the Gentiles, but in the bible, it has this law, a law of double mention.

Acts 10: 15
Acts 11: 9 all says the same thing. In the entire book of Acts, it's mentioned thee times. Three is the number of God. (God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.) It's the trinity. Also, humans, we are of Body soul and Spirit. We are all trinity. However, I know some of you might say, "Yeah right, if I were also trinity, I'd been like God" Remember we are not able to be like God, to be able to transcend from time to time. God travels in eternity. We travel in time.

What does Eternity means?
Eternity does not mean that we are in a timeless situation where we can live forever. Eternity simply means to live in a time where God lives.

Christians does not believes Jesus for what you called, "their Savior of something". Christians believe Jesus is the Son of God, the Lord and Savior of their lives.

Look at the ministries of the people in the Quaran, Judasim and Christianity, which of them acknowledges the Bible as the source of Authority. also, throughout the entire Bible, who was the ONLY one who is able to deliver people of demons? The only person in te 66 books of the Bible is Jesus. He was the one who started the deliverance ministry. From then on, His disciples were also able to do the same as He have given them the authority to do so.

othniel
25-08-2003, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by iamhappy_80
i heard somewhere, that whenall the jews come together, that is the end of the world?
btw, i am a free thinker...i believe in alittle of ALL the religion.

End of the World
Hmm, interesting... Well, it's not time yet. When the time is up, Christians will know. However, it's drawing nearer. Look at what the Bible says in the Book f Revelation. It says in the Book of revelations that when the time comes for Jews to be gathered back to Israel, the time is drawing near.

Israel, after God have scattered them to the entire World, will come back together to form a nation. This prophecy was told in the bible, in Book of Jeremiah. Look at the Israel nations now. Though I do not know much about it's current recent History. I only know Israel have been in the midst of war even before the forming of the country. http://www.jafi.org.il/education/100/concepts/d3.html#tsahal for more info.

Anyway look at this... http://www.chosen-people.com/docs/Curious/AboutUs2/Articles/MorningStar/LivingMiracle.html

This is only one of the facts I can share with you... hehehe... if you want to know more, do ask... I'll do my utmost best to reply...

Lastly, from my view, there's no such thing as a free thinker. Not going against anyone... but... there's not many things that you can say you believe yet not believe. I'm not pretty sure if I can place the sites here... I'm really sorry if I have gone against the rules...

Lastly, this prophecy have been fulfilled. Until the day peace comes unto Israel, the forming of sophiscated equipments that does not require cash card/ cash but a chip/mark made on our bodies to buy and sell stuffs, the world will not come to the end. When the time comes when we do not need to use cash or credit card but only paying through the scanning of our body parts to the register, the time will not come YET. However, these are the two major signs...

Other signs like... increasing of natural disasters, confusions, degrading of government (from better to worse), to the social getting from bad to worse, those who does not have God... well... you will never know what is going on, unless you've been told.

Many people in the world does not know much about the Bible. If there are still so many who have never heard about the Bible or Jesus Christ, why should another have the privilliage to listen to the Gospel for two times?

Anyway, really got to go... before I write another sermon... lol :angel:
I'm not trying to preach here... but to those who want to know, I'll do my best to answer... though my knowledge is not as wide as those of scholars...

iamhappy_80
25-08-2003, 08:54 PM
so it's not the end of the world yet? hee... that's good news!it really amazes me when i listen to all the different religion history. i think i only choose to believe what i believe so i better say i am a free thinker.. :) i can't be a buddhist, taoist,christian,muslim all at the same time! sorry if this may sound ridiculous to anyone. just my little own way of viewing things.

why can't all the religion get along?... that's what causing all the terrorist problem in the first place. by making use of religion... and how come there are so many religions in the first place?hmm.... this one probably you guys out there may have answers to this...

Mathwizard
25-08-2003, 09:26 PM
http://www.origin-of-religion.com/ ;)

Mathwizard
25-08-2003, 10:04 PM
By the way, for those who don't know, there are many similarities between creation myth of Christianity with that of Sumerian, the first civilization of human race. Read here: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/a/c/acj2/sumer.htm

The flood of Noah can also be found in many cultures throughout the world, and therefore it could be based on historical fact, but this of course raises the question that which version of these stories is the correct one. I have trouble accepting any one of them based on faith and only faith. It is highly possible that all of them are simply stories that is based on a real flood and no higher power of god or gods are at work.

Flood stories from all over the world:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Column/1122/FLOODPJ.htm

http://www.nwcreation.net/noahlegends.html

It's just my personal opinion though, no offence.

othniel
26-08-2003, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by Mathwizard
By the way, for those who don't know, there are many similarities between creation myth of Christianity with that of Sumerian, the first civilization of human race. Read here: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/a/c/acj2/sumer.htm

The flood of Noah can also be found in many cultures throughout the world, and therefore it could be based on historical fact, but this of course raises the question that which version of these stories is the correct one. I have trouble accepting any one of them based on faith and only faith. It is highly possible that all of them are simply stories that is based on a real flood and no higher power of god or gods are at work.

Flood stories from all over the world:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Column/1122/FLOODPJ.htm

http://www.nwcreation.net/noahlegends.html

It's just my personal opinion though, no offence.


Sure, it's alright. You have your say. Look at the State of Israel... Yes, though some of you might think it's still a long time. However, first thing first, it's drawing nearer. If you still think that you can do what you what now, well, it's alright... However, don't say that you're not told.

Also, for those who rejects God, look around you. Do you think you really are formed from evolution? If you are, why are the nature so in order? Why is there a 7 day week and not 10 days week etc...

In the Bible, which I acknowledge is the final authority of God's Word, is unchangable. Also, look at the Ko-rans and other religion, does it talk about Israel? Look at the current situations of the World. Why did the war with Iraq start? Why did the Gulf war start? If it's not the works of God, Israelic nation will not birth forth in the midst of cease fire and if it's not a God appointed country, other countries would not have attacked it before and after it was born.

Why do I take the nature and evolutions in account? Cause if there is really evolutions, then the entire world would not be in such neat order... there will not be such thing called gravity. Look at the skies and your surroundings, why are there things in order? Is it in a mess? Yes, it's in a mess as people caused things to be messy.

Ok, anyway, for those who still rejects God, well, it's your choice. God did not make us robots. If you want, look for this sermon "sinners in the hand of the angry God" through the internet.

Lastly, why is there so many religions? Well, I've told you but maybe some of you do not understand. Well, fact of the matter is that, God gave us the CHOICE to choose. Also, like what I said in another column, other religions are like an occult. Look at the Catholics, look at what do their Popes believed in. Look at what happened throughout the entire History of human mankind. What have Catholics done... Catholics, like the rest of you, believed that IF one is not doing evil thing, then they are sinless. This however, is WRONG mentality. In the Bible, it says "the Just SHALL live by Faith".

Therefore, there is NO SUCH THING as earning for Salvations OR suffer to get forgiven

Well, I guess for those whose hearts are still harden and still rejects the existence of God, I really do pray that He will show you the way... It's NEVER by my knowledge OR my usage of words... it's by the Power of God and the Holy Spirit that will touch your heart.

If there are ALREADY facts stated in the Bible, why would one look for other informations? It's like you already know that you can buy a pair of Nike shoes from the factory or the manufaturer, why would you still want to go to the retail shop to get what you can get at the factory and PAY more price?

Also, legends and myths... are not 100% real. Are there still dragons around? Though there are, they are all on the walls... What we are dealing here is FIRST hand information... directly from the Bible, why would you believe a LIE instead of the truth? Is it because you're proving me right? That the World does not like truth but the LIES and deceptions?

In the Bible, it's stated very CLEARLY, "THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE" Must God really repeat everything from History to come to past? Is the fact that I have proven to you, that the world will turn from Good to bad, and bad to worse and worse to MUCH worse a bad example?

Is the miracle FORMATION of Israel in 15May 1948, not something rather close? What more? Look at the past 10 years, what's going on. The Gulf wars, the War with Iraq of late... the problems Israel is facing... and the kind of technology we are having... it's all stated in the Bible.

You would rather believe in the myths and legends than those which are truth? Well, how shall I put it but to say that your eyes are not opened?
It is written "you have EYES that can see, yet you see NOT, EARS that can hear, YET HEAR NOT"

Also, in proverbs/psalms , there's a saying "Let those who think they are wise, be fools to themselves"

I'm not here to discourage anyone or to pick up a quarrel NOR to offend. It's never my intention. I just really hope to let those who reads, OPEN their eyes and their hearts. Cause most of these stuffs... are not even taught in most Churches. Unless those who went for Bible schools...

I do pray for those who look at this forum, that their hearts, made of stone, would be changed into hearts, made of flesh. Not a harden or replusive heart but one that would embrace truth and rejects lies.

Before I go, I'd like to say, God made us by His hands. We are special, we are MADE in the image of God. Animals are created by what God says... so are plants. He made us not that we are to be punished by Him. However, on the contary, we are created by God, so that we can enjoy His blessings and love. God is LOVE. Love is God. There is no word that can describe the kind of Love God have for us. The UNCONDITIONAL "aggape" love, that no matter what our sins are, He have already forgiven us. He loved us so much, that He gave His only begotten Son, Jesus, to come to earth, to suffer and die for our sin's sake. If God is described in http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/a/c/acj2/sumer.htm I can tell you, that's not the nature of God. God will NEVER INSULT Himself.

He one who kills and deceives and lies etc... is Satan and the other is ourselves. God has a plan for us, GOOD and NEVER evil. Even before the foundation of the World were set, we were already on His mind. Also, before our mothers have concived us, He already knew what are we like and what He intend us to do.

In the Final days, one sure thing will happen. After the peace Israel will have, Israel will build a temple to worship God. This will lead to the invasion from the antiChrist and half of what Israel/ Jerusalem is, will be conquored by the antichrist.

After this invasion, the antichrist will come into the Temple of God, to set up idols into the Temple. This is the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION as mentioned in revelations.

Well, I follow facts, histories and NOT MYTHS NOR LEGENDS. Please show Bible verses... to show that I am wrong... If not, I stand by the Word of God and nothing but the Word of God. He is the ULTIMATE Authority I recognize...

Peace to all... Amen

Mathwizard
26-08-2003, 07:27 AM
I am open to all possibility, but to answer your questionwhy are the nature so in order? Why is there a 7 day week and not 10 days week etc..., it is trivially answered by science. The second question is more trivial since if it is 10 days you will also take it for granted and ask "see, why is it 10 days?" :p This is good site that argue about creationism vs science, but the author may be a bit too harsh and impolite so bear with him if you can: http://www.stardestroyer.net/Creationism/

I shall end here and will not post on this thread again (except to answer any specific question that will not heat up the forum). Experience tells me that this kind of discussion will get heated sooner and later :( So I will continue to monitor the thread and hopefully it doesn't get to the point that I will have to delete posts or something like that ;)

. lala .
26-08-2003, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by othniel
I disagree with you. Go and check Christianity through the centuries. See who are the ones who persecuted the Christians. Also, with the rise of Islam during the 7th century, many of the Christians states which were once ruled by the Romans were taken over by the muslims.

Judasim, Islam all does not look upon Jesus as the Son Of God. In fact, Christians are the MOST PERSECUTED throughout the centuries. Look at the Roman States. What happened to those reformist who tried to talk to the Popes and what happened when they have the Word of God?

Also, the fall of Christianity through out the 7th centuries onwards, was because of the lack of the workers of God, that is one of the factor. Secondly, Bibles during that time, was rare and only the Popes have it. By history FACTS, most of those who attained the post of Popes did not even have a single knowledge of Christianity. Those are the Roman Catholics...

Not going against any religion. We have the freedom to believe and to choose. HOwever, what I am doing and showing here is not my knowledge but base on the historical facts...

Do check it all out...

I think you were confused between the Jews and the Christians. I did do research on these 3 religions cos one of my papers was on them. The Jews were the persecuted lot. They have been persecuted by Christians and other religions. D'ya know that Christians actually comprises of the Catholics and the Protestants? We're all called Christians but of different factors. The protestants BROKE AWAY from the Catholics cos they did not wish to have the inclusion of the other 7books. :)

. lala .
26-08-2003, 11:16 AM
:btw: othniel, this whole religion thingy has sparked quite a verbal war in the past so I will ask you please to tone it down. Am glad that you're so passionate about the Lord. :) To state the facts, there are no freethinkers cos freethinkers actually originated from the religion Freemason but such things changes in every society. In our society, freethinkers are people who have no particular beliefs. Frankly, d'ya know why there's so much dispute between the bibles and other books of authority? Cos the Bible has been translated so many times to such an extent that some of the words/meanings were lost. THIS HAS BEEN RESEARCHED ON. Yet, the Quran and Torah has been intact through the years.

I believe most of us came with good intentions to find out about each other's beliefs. But please don't come down hard on them. Yes, we are going through the period of trials and tribulations. And othniel, some of us do do research like you but we keep an open mind. Not saying that you ain't but it's quite obvious that your argument leans to particular side. Please, no offence ya. :)

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Mathwizard, I've heard of the civilization. D'ya have any idea what was the ancient Indian religion that tried to unite all religions into 1 but failed? I'm rather curious about that. Thanks.

Mathwizard
26-08-2003, 11:58 AM
D'ya have any idea what was the ancient Indian religion that tried to unite all religions into 1 but failed?

Hmm....haven't heard of that before, I am more familiar with Egyptian, Sumerian and Mayan civilization, not Indian. But anyway, how ancient is it? If it is way too ancient then "all religions" may not include all religions as we know it now? Usually we refer to ancient civilization as a civilization that exist somewhere around 2000BC and before, and surely Christianity, Islam and Buddhism etc are yet to be born. If so, then "all religion" means all the ancient religions?

. lala .
26-08-2003, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Mathwizard
Hmm....haven't heard of that before, I am more familiar with Egyptian, Sumerian and Mayan civilization, not Indian. But anyway, how ancient is it? If it is way too ancient then "all religions" may not include all religions as we know it now? Usually we refer to ancient civilization as a civilization that exist somewhere around 2000BC and before, and surely Christianity, Islam and Buddhism etc are yet to be born. If so, then "all religion" means all the ancient religions?

I can't remember. Probably around the same period as the Sumerian civilization. I only remember that my aunt says it originated from an ancient civilization. :confused: Unable to find any information on it at all.

othniel
26-08-2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by . lala .
:btw: othniel, this whole religion thingy has sparked quite a verbal war in the past so I will ask you please to tone it down. Am glad that you're so passionate about the Lord. :) To state the facts, there are no freethinkers cos freethinkers actually originated from the religion Freemason but such things changes in every society. In our society, freethinkers are people who have no particular beliefs. Frankly, d'ya know why there's so much dispute between the bibles and other books of authority? Cos the Bible has been translated so many times to such an extent that some of the words/meanings were lost. THIS HAS BEEN RESEARCHED ON. Yet, the Quran and Torah has been intact through the years.

I believe most of us came with good intentions to find out about each other's beliefs. But please don't come down hard on them. Yes, we are going through the period of trials and tribulations. And othniel, some of us do do research like you but we keep an open mind. Not saying that you ain't but it's quite obvious that your argument leans to particular side. Please, no offence ya. :)

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Mathwizard, I've heard of the civilization. D'ya have any idea what was the ancient Indian religion that tried to unite all religions into 1 but failed? I'm rather curious about that. Thanks.

If I do sound harsh, I'm sorry about it. :o Am not feeling offended. Really.

True there were lots of translations in the curent Bible. However, it was done so that we would be able to read it in our own language. Or a common language.. Yes, I'd admit that some of the words were missing and not translated properly. However, the languages used in the Bible initially, could not be translated properly into English, as there are weakness in English and there are words in the Original language of the Bible which could never be translated directly into English language but a very close meaning to the word have been used. However, it does not mean that with so many translations, the Bible is not complete.

The Protestant Church broke away from the Roman Churches as the Roman Churches recognize the authoirty of the Popes and said that the word of the Popes are infalliable while the Bible is treated secondary.

I have to admit that I do side one side towards myself... However, if I agree with this and that, then would I not be a flaky person and have no stand? Yes, there are religions which seems good, however, I'm not saying they are not good.

I was from a buddist background. However, it was only after 23 years later, I converted to be a Christian. Has had a very messy life. However, after being a Christian, I have found myself to be better than before. Before being a Christian, the moment one sees me, one would run away from me. Not that I am ugly. The fact is that, I look super unfriendly and negative about stuffs over my life. I'm saying these not because I'm promoting anything here. The reason here is to say, what God has done in my life.

As for the history of Rome is one great lesson we can learn. It also shows us how it fell and why the Protestant Church broke off. Also, before there was a protestant Church, there were already a major breakoff in Churches between the Western Churches and the Eastern Churches. The protestant Church, if I am not wrong, came after the break up of the Churches. There were the reformists and many others came. People like John Wycliff, John Calvin, Martin Luther and many others more rose up. These people are the ones who read and did researches on the Bible. They are one of the many who translated the Bible into other languages; including English.

:)

. lala .
26-08-2003, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by othniel
If I do sound harsh, I'm sorry about it. :o Am not feeling offended. Really.

True there were lots of translations in the curent Bible. However, it was done so that we would be able to read it in our own language. Or a common language.. Yes, I'd admit that some of the words were missing and not translated properly. However, the languages used in the Bible initially, could not be translated properly into English, as there are weakness in English and there are words in the Original language of the Bible which could never be translated directly into English language but a very close meaning to the word have been used. However, it does not mean that with so many translations, the Bible is not complete.

The Protestant Church broke away from the Roman Churches as the Roman Churches recognize the authoirty of the Popes and said that the word of the Popes are infalliable while the Bible is treated secondary.

I have to admit that I do side one side towards myself... However, if I agree with this and that, then would I not be a flaky person and have no stand? Yes, there are religions which seems good, however, I'm not saying they are not good.

I was from a buddist background. However, it was only after 23 years later, I converted to be a Christian. Has had a very messy life. However, after being a Christian, I have found myself to be better than before. Before being a Christian, the moment one sees me, one would run away from me. Not that I am ugly. The fact is that, I look super unfriendly and negative about stuffs over my life. I'm saying these not because I'm promoting anything here. The reason here is to say, what God has done in my life.

As for the history of Rome is one great lesson we can learn. It also shows us how it fell and why the Protestant Church broke off. Also, before there was a protestant Church, there were already a major breakoff in Churches between the Western Churches and the Eastern Churches. The protestant Church, if I am not wrong, came after the break up of the Churches. There were the reformists and many others came. People like John Wycliff, John Calvin, Martin Luther and many others more rose up. These people are the ones who read and did researches on the Bible. They are one of the many who translated the Bible into other languages; including English.

:)

Hm. Compare the various bibles together.. the most complete translated bible is actually the Chinese version. :) Though KJV is widely recognised as one of the most complete and most accurately translated Bible, it is still filled with flaws. There's a reason for the Torah to be written in that manner and the Quran too but our Bible broke this chain already. Go take a look at the others.

:btw: There's a Christian thread in the main section. You might wanna join us in discussion? :)

othniel
26-08-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by . lala .
Hm. Compare the various bibles together.. the most complete translated bible is actually the Chinese version. :) Though KJV is widely recognised as one of the most complete and most accurately translated Bible, it is still filled with flaws. There's a reason for the Torah to be written in that manner and the Quran too but our Bible broke this chain already. Go take a look at the others.

:btw: There's a Christian thread in the main section. You might wanna join us in discussion? :)

Alright... sigh... my entire message has been rejected... lol... but... it's alright... thanks for your info... :toast:

wlkp
05-12-2003, 02:18 PM
Alright... sigh... my entire message has been rejected... lol... but... it's alright... thanks for your info... :toast:

Religion or Beliefs

1. What is the most common teachings found in all such religions and beliefs in this current world?

2. Is it true the Higher Intelligent (the “source” of all creation) knows than humans cannot live in peace with one another because of greed, disobedience, selfishness and their agressive denial behaviors?

3. The world is so divided, separated and corrupted that the end is at hand for Earth people.

4. Most humans know only that they have a mind and a body.
The usually did not realize that they have a soul and a spirit.
They are afraid of ghost, haunted places and other luminous phenomena.

Human seldom want spiritual growth and lack the ability to deny self for the sake of the well-being of another fellow human being. He is proud of his conquest and often announced that he is the first to do this and and to do that. As far as the “source” of all Creation is concerned, we must learn to eat our humble pie.

5. It is unthinkable to mention or to be proud of that humans had “captured” some aliens and their crashed spacecrafts or saucers.


No one has ever spoken with such authority in history
either before or after HIM with such words:

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen”.

The assumptions:
1. We can do it ourselves and we don’t need an education
or someone to teach us.

2. The more power the better and to get more power we must get more money by all means.

3. One way to faster money is to get it by deceiving.

4. Why must we obey all the rules and regulations given to us by religious teachers? We choose to live how we want and what we want. This is the same as saying “we don’t need spiritual guidance.”

5. There is no such thing as the Holy Spirit and we don’t need it to guide our thinking and doings anyway.

6. We have been observing strange things happening in this world (Earth). All of a sudden since the late 1930s there is some truth that extraterrestrial life exists and humans are not alone in this planet. Humans will doubt it when they are ignorant because they refused to be educated on this subject
which had been revealed by the Higher Intelligence.

7. Religious teachers/messengers have been trying to put these teachings across to humans and it looks like it will take another civilization more advance than ours to do the job.
Humans are only afraid when there are things out there more powerful and advance than them.

8. Humans did not know that the Holy Spirit dwell in them forever. They cannot escape from it. So humans choose the only easy way - to disobey and make denial.

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall be speak; and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you”.

Humans had been warned:

“How that they told you there would be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. These be they who separate themselves sensual, having not the Spirit.”

The Aliens and their “landings” on Earth during the last 50 years may be another Comforter or the Holy Spirit to embrace Earth people to be more tolerance of one another.

There are chances that humans will begin a new belief: call “Alienism” as much as they wish to avoid spiritual-obedience or the meaning behind sacred geometry.

However the forces and energies of the Cosmos should be studied more in detail. Humans would benefit by focusing their efforts on expanding “Human Collective Consciousness” rather than having an eye for an eye or a tooth for a tooth kind of attitude.

ichigoh
03-01-2004, 09:59 AM
ur body free to enter by those !
:D for mi, actually mi more 2 "Tao Jiao". cause can eat meat but avoid beef. reason why beef is we chinese pray Guan Yin or Buddha also, they belongs 2 "Fuo Jiao". Hindu also eat meat but not beef ! studied history of Buddhism before ? some of them related to India. ie, Journey 2 The West. remem the retriveing those "Scriptures" from india ? =P

I'm a taoist, though my hse also 'bai' Guanyin Goddess... I got one question though.. Why taoist cannot eat beef? I remember in primary school, i read from the 'basic reader' that beef are forbidden due the jade emperor's promise to a guy, who got killed and eaten when he reincarnated as a bull, despite working in the field all his life.. Is this story the true explanation?

devilion
03-01-2004, 11:00 AM
Religion, be it buddhist, christian or tao as long can lead you a peaceful and meaningful life is a good religion. Sadly, due to human greed intervention some have betrayed their very own religion and lead astray.

For those who go around bad mouthing other religion and forcing ppl to convert are the ones I really cannot stand. Only shows how narrow minded they are. In other words lame ass...

oldturtle
03-01-2004, 02:44 PM
free thinker here... but then in documents, my religion is Buddhist ley... but i never practise lor... so bcome free thinker..

i feel that all religion teaches basically the same thing lor... to love each other, care for each other, help each other...

i respect all religions cos they r actually the same thing, onli that ppl worship diff Gods...

as for supernatural stuff.. better to believe then to not lor.. but then the UFOs and alien stuff.. i quite skeptical cos some of them look so fake..

LuV-AmanDa
03-01-2004, 10:31 PM
free thinker here... but then in documents, my religion is Buddhist ley... but i never practise lor... so bcome free thinker..

i feel that all religion teaches basically the same thing lor... to love each other, care for each other, help each other...

i respect all religions cos they r actually the same thing, onli that ppl worship diff Gods...

as for supernatural stuff.. better to believe then to not lor.. but then the UFOs and alien stuff.. i quite skeptical cos some of them look so fake..
hhhhmmmm buddhist here n same i respect all religions n tink they juz teaches us 2 b gd loh.... n supernatural stuffs i do belief them!! UFO i belief but oso like wt oldturtle said... sum look beri fake...

Innocent Girl
25-03-2004, 07:56 PM
Just want to see if religion has any correlation to your beliefs in the supernatural stuff ?
I'm an atheist. And that's a correlation. I don't believe in God, Ghosts, and the Supernaturals. :p

KeRoPi
27-05-2005, 01:26 PM
taoist? eh... taoist is dao shi leh...

should be taoism....

yvonne77
27-05-2005, 01:30 PM
i m a Buddhist..

ztife
27-05-2005, 02:04 PM
im a catholic... but im like lazy to go church and all? don't even believe much.. i always pray and ask god to help me have more faith in him.. haha. =D

chloebabe
27-05-2005, 03:14 PM
me is buddhist but is from soka

guanno
03-06-2005, 02:42 PM
my god is friendship and $$$$$$$$$$$$$

rachiex
04-06-2005, 04:44 PM
freetinker..

beyondmatrix
06-06-2005, 01:25 AM
To those who dont believe we are not alone on earth.

Yes there are some form of spirits after dead.

My experienced,sorry not only me,my whole charlie company(148 soldiers)serving the 2nd singapore guards unit in 199x,had bad encounter with those things.

@north-east part of s'pore,is that we have dig into some kampong cemetery.
Order past down from co,some deploy @ lower ground,some on high ground.

'Gentlemen,dig your self-script'.

10mins,the sky turns red with heavy clouds.thats 8pm & 30 seconds to see it changes.But no rain,it just disappeared as fast as it came.Only few drops of water for a min.

Around 10pm,someone been processed.10 mins another man.9 strong men cannot hold them down,it takes 9men to hold or press each of them on the muddy ground.They was send to changi hospital by army ambulance.Nobody dares to close their eyes after the second procession happens.

Who can stand the cold n dark forest,sure some go to sleep.

They(it) are waiting you to sleep,then process you.

oc order all men move to the high ground.

We wait till sun rise.7am all of them looks like panda,no need to use camouflage stick on our face liao.

"F X C K,cemetery",one of a soldier shouted.

Who going to believe this?

No you dont.Yes,we did see this happen,the 148 of us experienced it.

Now,only HDB flats are seen.

We still discuss this every time we gather.

& went back to the place a few time.

WE ARE NOT ALONE

rebel1985
06-06-2005, 06:01 PM
i dunno i belong to buddhist or taoist but i still pray to them. i do believe we are not alone
cause my bro and i saw it be4.

brans0n
07-06-2005, 02:14 PM
I'm a fully devotee in thai buddhism :nn:

Cupid
07-06-2005, 04:47 PM
Just want to see if religion has any correlation to your beliefs in the supernatural stuff ?

currently free thinker

AI RU CAO SHUI
11-06-2005, 01:07 PM
chinese buddistism are more patient towards human kind & living being










不知道是我脱离了世界还是世界之人抛弃了我…世界变了样,世界何时末日有谁知
前些日子友人约我到 JLN BESAR 体育场看球赛… 打扮水当当的我原以为是在体育
场内看球赛没想到我被友人的" JLN BESAR 体育场“ 误导了。 到了那里我责怪友人
解释他话还没说完他是说 JLN BESAR 体育场的隔壁的咖啡店新加坡又怎么可能观
赏到日本世界杯呢…想到我都觉得不好意识. 那不是最遭的,最倒霉的还是那间 KOPI
TIAM 已经被般的正间 KOSONG 了。 于是友人建议到 附近的酒店去看但却很无奈的我
身上带不够钱洗。 于是我鼓起了勇气像AH SOH 那样排在大马路然后遇见一位U NCLE
于是借问到 "UNCLE 请问到那里可以看免费的足球赛“ 过后我们就沦落到 LAVENDER
的咖啡店里的小影目. 如果说我不曾潦倒也就不会有今天如果没有今天也不会那么
LAU KHUI
:cry:

gordonzz
12-06-2005, 08:08 AM
不知道是我脱离了世界还是世界之人抛弃了我…世界变了样,世界何时末日有谁知
前些日子友人约我到 JLN BESAR 体育场看球赛… 打扮水当当的我原以为是在体育
场内看球赛没想到我被友人的" JLN BESAR 体育场“ 误导了。 到了那里我责怪友人
解释他话还没说完他是说 JLN BESAR 体育场的隔壁的咖啡店新加坡又怎么可能观
赏到日本世界杯呢…想到我都觉得不好意识. 那不是最遭的,最倒霉的还是那间 KOPI
TIAM 已经被般的正间 KOSONG 了。 于是友人建议到 附近的酒店去看但却很无奈的我
身上带不够钱洗。 于是我鼓起了勇气像AH SOH 那样排在大马路然后遇见一位U NCLE
于是借问到 "UNCLE 请问到那里可以看免费的足球赛“ 过后我们就沦落到 LAVENDER
的咖啡店里的小影目. 如果说我不曾潦倒也就不会有今天如果没有今天也不会那么
LAU KHUI
:cry:

can i know what that means?

AI RU CAO SHUI
12-06-2005, 08:25 AM
it reminds me the myth神话 in real life of my own when many time I happen to click the religion topic in this forum there was once I was in trouble and sick, I seek help from one of the temple in bugis. I met 观世音 twice, in different occasion she appeared only voice without an image when answering to my prayer

I believe, her voice heals followers like me who's suffering from long terms mental stress, when reciting sutra 观音正经 it's makes human's sprit happy, free from worries, calm & peaceful mind

and now I've learned to chant and I do it frequently coz I know once i master the great compassion mantra can avoid me from 15 D disaster
and longevity

People and gods who recite and hold the Great Compassion Mantra will obtain fifteen kinds of good birth and will not suffer fifteen kinds of bad death:

They will not die of starvation or privation
They will not die from having been yoked, imprisoned, caned or otherwise beaten
They will not die at the hands of hostile enemies
They will not be killed in military battle
They will not be killed by tigers, wolves, or other evil beasts
They will not die from the venom of poisonous snakes, black serpents, or scorpions
They will not drown or be burned to death
They will not be poisoned to death
They will not die as a result of sorcery
They will not die of madness or insanity
They will not be killed by landslides or falling trees
They will not die of nightmares sent by evil people
They will not be killed by deviant spirits or evil ghosts
They will not die of evil illnesses which bind the body
They will not commit suicide
Those who recite and hold the Spiritual Mantra of Great Compassion will not suffer any of these fifteen kinds of bad death and will obtain the following fifteen kinds of good birth:

Their place of birth will always have a good king
They will always be born in a good country
They will always be born at a good time
They will always meet good friends
The organs of their body will always be complete
Their heart will be pure and full in the way
They will not violate the prohibitive precepts
Their family will be kind and harmonious
They will always have the necessary wealth and goods in abundance
They will always obtain the respect and help of others
They riches will not be plundered
They will obtain everything they seek
Dragons, gods, and good spirits will always protect them
In the place where they are born they will see the Buddha and hear the Dharma
They will awaken to the profound meaning of that Proper Dharma which they hear.
Those who recite and hold the Great Compassion Mantra will obtain these fifteen kinds of good birth. All gods and people should constantly recite and hold it, without carelessness :HugHug:

junkai21
12-06-2005, 01:06 PM
ive got a question here. Lets' say Im a Buddihst now... can i change my religion to Christian?

BeckHamHam
12-06-2005, 01:34 PM
am chinese buddistism has anyone heard of guanyin the goddess
ever she came to my rescue & healed my sick.. Do u believe

i would..... my mum told me her story too..

cyndishi
12-06-2005, 05:55 PM
ive got a question here. Lets' say Im a Buddihst now... can i change my religion to Christian?

Yes. If you believe and accept Jesus Christ into your life.
And accept him as your savior and Lord.

extendkia
24-06-2005, 02:10 AM
me is buddhist but is from soka


I am from SSA too

Singapore Soka Association

budhhism here~

Ghost4854
28-06-2005, 12:48 PM
it reminds me the myth神话 in real life of my own when many time I happen to click the religion topic in this forum there was once I was in trouble and sick, I seek help from one of the temple in bugis. I met 观世音 twice, in different occasion she appeared only voice without an image when answering to my prayer

I believe, her voice heals followers like me who's suffering from long terms mental stress, when reciting sutra 观音正经 it's makes human's sprit happy, free from worries, calm & peaceful mind

and now I've learned to chant and I do it frequently coz I know once i master the great compassion mantra can avoid me from 15 D disaster
and longevity

People and gods who recite and hold the Great Compassion Mantra will obtain fifteen kinds of good birth and will not suffer fifteen kinds of bad death:

They will not die of starvation or privation
They will not die from having been yoked, imprisoned, caned or otherwise beaten
They will not die at the hands of hostile enemies
They will not be killed in military battle
They will not be killed by tigers, wolves, or other evil beasts
They will not die from the venom of poisonous snakes, black serpents, or scorpions
They will not drown or be burned to death
They will not be poisoned to death
They will not die as a result of sorcery
They will not die of madness or insanity
They will not be killed by landslides or falling trees
They will not die of nightmares sent by evil people
They will not be killed by deviant spirits or evil ghosts
They will not die of evil illnesses which bind the body
They will not commit suicide
Those who recite and hold the Spiritual Mantra of Great Compassion will not suffer any of these fifteen kinds of bad death and will obtain the following fifteen kinds of good birth:

Their place of birth will always have a good king
They will always be born in a good country
They will always be born at a good time
They will always meet good friends
The organs of their body will always be complete
Their heart will be pure and full in the way
They will not violate the prohibitive precepts
Their family will be kind and harmonious
They will always have the necessary wealth and goods in abundance
They will always obtain the respect and help of others
They riches will not be plundered
They will obtain everything they seek
Dragons, gods, and good spirits will always protect them
In the place where they are born they will see the Buddha and hear the Dharma
They will awaken to the profound meaning of that Proper Dharma which they hear.
Those who recite and hold the Great Compassion Mantra will obtain these fifteen kinds of good birth. All gods and people should constantly recite and hold it, without carelessness :HugHug:

Can u teach me how to recite sutra 观音正经?

Ghost4854
28-06-2005, 12:55 PM
ive got a question here. Lets' say Im a Buddihst now... can i change my religion to Christian?

Yes, I know a few of my friends have changed from Christian to Buddhist, so I am sure there is nothing wrong for a Buddhist to become a Christian.

temari
28-06-2005, 05:37 PM
same here, belong to buddhism but at home pray is taoist god.got pray malay and indian god also.i dnt kw whether there is god or nt but i believe there is ghost cos i saw b4 also.

i dunno i belong to buddhist or taoist but i still pray to them. i do believe we are not alone
cause my bro and i saw it be4.

chloebabe
28-06-2005, 10:03 PM
I am from SSA too

Singapore Soka Association

budhhism here~

hi hi

^ 5, you ren pei wo le

metoh
28-06-2005, 11:48 PM
wah.. so many buddhists.. I christian la.. but now seldom go church.. my pastor go overseas to write book la.. and i belive ghosts dunt exist.. even if they do.. u dun disturb them, they wont disturb u..

beyondmatrix
29-06-2005, 10:24 AM
wah.. so many buddhists.. I christian la.. but now seldom go church.. my pastor go overseas to write book la.. and i belive ghosts dunt exist.. even if they do.. u dun disturb them, they wont disturb u..

still young to comments

cheers

ginn
29-06-2005, 10:32 AM
freethinker.

Devilishious
29-06-2005, 11:58 AM
Well.... I'm a free thinker, though each member of my family believes in completely different faiths... One Christian, one Nichiren Buddhist, one hindu, one taoist... though we never impose our faiths on each other... religious harmony

davn
04-08-2005, 09:40 AM
Demonology. I believe in the existance of the Devil and Demons.

FYI, demons don't go around doing nothing but possessing people like you see in the exorcist. Hollywood makes you believe that demons are like that coz you're paying them to do so.

beyondmatrix
04-08-2005, 11:06 AM
Well.... I'm a free thinker, though each member of my family believes in completely different faiths... One Christian, one Nichiren Buddhist, one hindu, one taoist... though we never impose our faiths on each other... religious harmony

communication break down is it

:(

Devilishious
04-08-2005, 12:37 PM
communication break down is it

:(
ehh, don't think so bah, we just respect each other's faiths lor.

beyondmatrix
07-08-2005, 01:39 PM
get together more often then lor

it seen that everyone doing their own business leh

very impress,good

cheers

IamBoring
02-09-2005, 02:16 AM
free thinker..
but i do respect all religion.. when i go to mosque last time (due to mine work) i respect and take off my shoe before enter.. when i go to church.. i will bow down and pray.. when i go to temple.. i will take joss stick and pray oso..

Zulu
02-09-2005, 07:40 AM
part-time christian can anot ar...?

Devilishious
03-09-2005, 03:10 AM
part-time christian can anot ar...?
huh? Then full time as wad? 8-5 wkdays work with no CPF?

. lala .
10-09-2005, 03:34 PM
part-time christian can anot ar...?
What is PT Christian? I'm relatively curious.

shoubude
10-09-2005, 04:06 PM
free-thinker i tink shld respect ppl religion la.. like respect each other loh.. coz to some ppl their own religion veri impt..

ifzzz
11-09-2005, 02:20 PM
I only converted to Buddhism in May... before ta also dunno wat religion.. all kind of chinese temples I also go..

shoubude
11-09-2005, 04:49 PM
^^,

sinful.jas
29-09-2005, 06:02 PM
i once heard a member of the Buddhism assoc said, "It is human who seperated ourselves from each religion, not vice versa." "jesus did not ask his followers to condemn anyones religion rite?" but y SOME pple still DO that? What is Religion? to teach usthe good stuff? or to 'attack' each other jus b'coz we have diff religion? but do pple having diff faith look any diff from any normal human beings? I'm taoism. I had both christian and roman catholic frens. i hate when i AWIZ heard the former critising the latter.. sigh.. though i do not know much bout the 2 religions, but honestly, i prefer hanging out with RC frens. and pls dun promote to the extreme. that's one of the reason i keep myself away from the christian community. i'm sorry i nv mean anything nasty. just that nobody would like anyone to criticise their religion rite? so pls be tactful. spare a tot for others' feeling.
Awiz live ur life by doing a little bit of good deed, a little of selflessness, generosity...
a Little less bad temper, narrow-mindedness, scheming, and the scariest side of human GREED!
i believe jus this LITTLE bit wun cost u much energy. but if eberyone do it, PEACE. if we really yearn for peace lets put religion aside and build a better world NOW. u might think dat i crap la. but its true lor. Practice what we preach!!! Action speaks louder den Words! Lets (all religion) stay unite! :D
No more discriminating of whatsoever!