UFOs and the unknown....

[kikasa]

Hi there, care to share your views regarding Intelligence life from outer space....

how about the Bermuda Triangle or Devil's Triangle??? is the disappearance
of Flight 19 linked to alien abduction or was it just an accident???

or even the area51??

[hellow]

i once saw a very bright star (@ least that is wat i tot it is) dashed across the sky very early in the morning...

[Hilarious_HaHa_Spot]

Originally posted by hellow
i once saw a very bright star (@ least that is wat i tot it is) dashed across the sky very early in the morning...
wah... so lucky... saw a meteor in the morning... :laugh:

[hellow]

Originally posted by Hilarious_HaHa_Spot
wah... so lucky... saw a meteor in the morning... :laugh:

meteor or not that i not sure... but its path of travel is definitely not towards earth.. coz it looks to travel away frm me where i was looking and @ a very fast speed oso...

[kikasa]

some believe tha men in black not just existed in movies but in real life too....

i once read a book borrowed from library, they say that they the men dressed in
the black suit and do not have any fingerprints..... :D

but those people that was interviewed by the MIB normally forgotten wat happen after they left and only recalled their meeting thru hypnotism

[kikasa]

Originally posted by hellow
meteor or not that i not sure... but its path of travel is definitely not towards earth.. coz it looks to travel away frm me where i was looking and @ a very fast speed oso...

well from wat i know.... there is no UFO-relate document recorded in singapore....
maybe your the first.....:D

well maybe wait for expert comment

[hellow]

Originally posted by kikasa69
well from wat i know.... there is no UFO-relate document recorded in singapore....
maybe your the first.....:D

well maybe wait for expert comment

haha...yah loh....

anyway, my sis oso commented when she was young that she was stirred frm her slp by a bright starlike object outside the window of our house in the middle of the night... and that it was damn big and near... like juz outside the window lidat... and it stayed there for quite sometime... then being children, my sis dunno wat she thinkin, went back to slp lah... only to tell me the following morning that the sun very bright and near our home that night.. pengz..

[sonato]

Hehe, i hope i can catch a UFO sighting here in Singapore... but no such thing happens to me yet. :D

[sonato]

Originally posted by kikasa69
some believe tha men in black not just existed in movies but in real life too....

i once read a book borrowed from library, they say that they the men dressed in
the black suit and do not have any fingerprints..... :D

but those people that was interviewed by the MIB normally forgotten wat happen after they left and only recalled their meeting thru hypnotism

That sounds like from the Movie leh or issit the movie taken from real life? Who knows. But i think those MIB are based in US correct?

Last time, there was sort of a show called sightings that investigate supernatural events and alien abduction leh. What you all think about alien abductions??? :eek:

[kikasa]

but normally such account about MIB usually passed down as hoax.....

alien abduction, well i read some accounts..... most of them is bringing them to be
examined by ET.... and also strange patterns on rice field in Peru etc.... also linked to alien by some investigators think that it's man-made.... well u nv know.....

the most famous account is the roswell crash

[sonato]

Originally posted by kikasa69
but normally such account about MIB usually passed down as hoax.....

alien abduction, well i read some accounts..... most of them is bringing them to be
examined by ET.... and also strange patterns on rice field in Peru etc.... also linked to alien by some investigators think that it's man-made.... well u nv know.....

the most famous account is the roswell crash

Yah, got one time, television got show how three people managed to create a corp circle leh in a few hours. Its not impossible to do so.

About those alien abductions, most people only realised it after they get hypnotise or something to learn the truth. They experience time warp or missing time. Which means that at certain time, they have no idea what are they doing or where are they.

[kikasa]

Originally posted by sonato
Yah, got one time, television got show how three people managed to create a corp circle leh in a few hours. Its not impossible to do so.

About those alien abductions, most people only realised it after they get hypnotise or something to learn the truth. They experience time warp or missing time. Which means that at certain time, they have no idea what are they doing or where are they.

usually they claimed that they are sleeping then was awaken by some bright lights or strange sound....after which they didn't remember.....

for me only 2 or 3 people making huge patterns on such a big pieces of land is quite impossible..... somemore some of their design is so well designed i doubted that it was man-made cos if it's human-made, there are sure of error but their design are so perfect and so nice in the sense.....

[hellow]

abt crop circles, there is a scientific explaination...
its caused by something in the air that causes it... as to the patterns, its due to the current of the air too....

juz like lightning... lightning actually strikes frm bottom up ya know? and not frm the sky down to earth...

[kikasa]

Originally posted by hellow
abt crop circles, there is a scientific explaination...
its caused by something in the air that causes it... as to the patterns, its due to the current of the air too....

juz like lightning... lightning actually strikes frm bottom up ya know? and not frm the sky down to earth...

ya i know..... but they say that their compass and watch went heywire when they are in and around the circle!!! scientific explaination is regarding some magnetic force or something....

[hellow]

Originally posted by kikasa69
ya i know..... but they say that their compass and watch went heywire when they are in and around the circle!!! scientific explaination is regarding some magnetic force or something....

yes.. thats electromagnetism or something lidat...
like @ the bermuda triangle lidat...

[kikasa]

ya something like this..... some physician claimed got something to do
with those underground magnetic force.....

[Shnchn]

i also saw the tv show on some ppl doing the crop circle in less then 30 min i thnk...
or an hr...

bemuda triangle also v meterious...
any one read the book..

bermuda triange n phlidephi(mi lousy spelling)
quite a mnice book..

hope realy some one can get the real ans to al these....

[hellow]

Originally posted by Shnchn
i also saw the tv show on some ppl doing the crop circle in less then 30 min i thnk...
or an hr...

bemuda triangle also v meterious...
any one read the book..

bermuda triange n phlidephi(mi lousy spelling)
quite a mnice book..

hope realy some one can get the real ans to al these....

the bermuda triangle is becoz there is large amt of methane gas(or someother similar gasses) released frm under the sea bed and these gasses haywired the normal working function of navigational and communication devices.. therefore resulted in the 'no call zone' ( i named that myself :p ).
as to y they sink? imagine breathing large amt of methane gas (or petroleum gasses), sure kenna knocked out one.. and oso the planes, large ships, sure will be hit by this large amt of gasses released @ one go.. and @ a time nobody would expected... planes would experience something like air turbulance, and ships like large bubbles coming out frm under the sea surface...

[Mathwizard]

My interest in paranormal actually started with UFOs and alien stuff :D It was in my primary school when I was 9 years old. Students were panic because someone claimed to have seen 3 inches tall humanoids :eek: (Later research shows that similar cases were reported many times in Malaysia)

Firstly I want to clarify one thing. UFO means Unidentified Flying Object, which does not equal extraterrestrial spaceship. ETH (Extraterrestrial Hypothesis) is only one of the speculation to explain the origin of UFOs, which I don't really believe is true. There are hundreds of different "alien entities" being reported throughout the year, are we to believe that an insignificant planet like earth attracts hundreds of different advanced civilizations in other parts of the universe? Besides, if you were to look into our history and culture, you will see that alien abduction stories are not new, they were similar to fairies encounter and shamanic experience. The only difference is the perception of human of different ages, hence we have a more technological version of the same old myth of meeting with higher beings. The alien's concerns are also correlated with human's concerns of that particular age: In the 1950s, contactees told us that aliens are here to teach us love and peace, and to warn us against the use of nuclear weapon, which is not surprising since it was a post-war period, and this reflects our psychological state. Then, in the 80s and early 90s, alien abductees reported they were being shown 'movies' or given lectures about the future of earth, which does not look good because of polution, again reflecting our main concern at that time. Is it a coincidence that more and more people now talk about aliens performing genetic engineering experiment now when the same issue is being discussed worldwide? I believe that most if not all alien abduction phenomena are psychological rather than physical experience.

As for Bermuda Triangle, if you traced back the myth to its origin, you will see that it originated with a newspaper article talking about several accidents and disappearances of ships within the region. Other authors soon picked up and added mysteries onto it and the myth grew bigger and bigger. For me there is no mystery in Bermuda Triangle. Insurance company does not even consider it as a high risk area, not even as high as the Straits of Malacca. Of course we have unexplained disappearances once in a while, but it is certainly not a unique phenomena in Bermuda Triangle.The theory of methane and gas hydrates may be true but the same phenomena happened almost throughout the world.

[Mathwizard]

As for Singapore UFO Sightings:

http://ufos.about.com/library/bldata/bl5sing.htm :D

[zEuS]

:D for tis topic.. i am interested too man~ but i nv seen the real thing b4 la.. but seen alot on tv.. singapore got spot tis kinda of thing b4?:D

[kikasa]

the most popular incident of the bermuda triangle might be the disappearance of flight 19 on 9 Dec 1945..... They are on some such of training and are under the command of a WW2 veteran pilot..... but if it's an accident, then how come no survivors or even wreckage were ever found..... it seem like they just vanished out of the face of earth..... guys care to share your views???

this is a webby about Flight 19: http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq15-1.htm

[zEuS]

Originally posted by kikasa69
the most popular incident of the bermuda triangle might be the disappearance of flight 19 on 9 Dec 1945..... They are on some such of training and are under the command of a WW2 veteran pilot..... but if it's an accident, then how come no survivors or even wreckage were ever found..... it seem like they just vanished out of the face of earth..... guys care to share your views???

this is a webby about Flight 19: http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq15-1.htm


:D tis kinda of thing hard to say la.. but i think tis kinda thing sure exist man~ arbo how those ppl got pic of it..:D

[Mathwizard]

I watched a documentary on Discovery channel about Bermuda Triangle. Flight 19 event happened because all of the crewmen were inexperienced trainees except for the patrol leader Lt. Charles Taylor.

Their compass malfunctioned during the flight (or maybe they forgot that compass pointed to true north in Bermuda Triangle, I forgot the details). He relied on navigating on landmarks below, but the storm caused poor visibility, so he led the whole crew further out to the sea. It could be that the five planes ran out of gas and plunged into the sea. Although the the wreckage has never been found, I see no mystery to their "disappearance". The air controller in duty that night still remembered vividly how he tried to convince the crew to turn back but apparently Taylor refused to listen to him.

The mariner aircraft that was sent to search for Flight 19 which was also "disappeared" most probably exploded due to some other accident. Witness report of mid-air explosion has been obtained.

More details here (http://www.ronaldbrucemeyer.com/archive/flight19.htm) ;)

[kikasa]

woowoo....:D

i think maybe there is a real scientific reason that flight 19 disappear after all....:D

well let turn ourself to UFO..... anyone here knows something like Roswell crash or something..... I remember watching 1 documentary on it and the narrator says that scientist think is a accident about hot air balloon went up to flame but eye witnesses and some police on the scene thinks otherwise!!!

[Mathwizard]

Here you go: http://roswellproof.homestead.com/ ;)

[kerpalz]

go watch "TAKEN".. the new speilberg show..... not bad.... its kinda abt the roswell stuff...

[wlkp]

CHANGE THE WORLD!

"DECIDE WHETHER WE SHOULD SHOW UP!"

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Whoever transmitted this translated message to you is irrelevant, and should remain anonymous in your mind. It is what you will do with this message which matters !

Each one of you wishes to exercise her/his free will and experience happiness.

These are attributes that were shown to us and to which we now have access. Your free will depends upon the knowledge you have of your own power. Your happiness depends upon the love that you give and receive.

Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you may feel isolated on your planet. This impression makes you sure of your destiny. Yet, you are at the brink of big upheavals that only a minority is aware of.

It is not our responsibility to modify your future without you choosing it. Consider this message as a worldwide referendum! And your answer as a ballot!


Who are we ?

Neither your scientists nor your religious representatives speak unanimously about the unexplained celestial events that mankind has witnessed for thousands of years. To know the truth, one must face it without the filter of one's beliefs, however respectable they may be.

A growing number of anonymous researchers of yours are exploring new knowledge paths and are getting very close to reality. Today, your civilisation is flooded with an ocean of information of which only a tiny part, the less upsetting one, is notably diffused.

What in your history seemed ridiculous or improbable has often become possible, then realised, in particular in the last fifty years. Be aware that the future will be even more surprising. You will discover the worst as well as the best.

Like billions others in this galaxy, we are conscious creatures that some name "extra-terrestrials", even though reality is subtler.

There is no fundamental difference between you and us, save for the experience of certain stages of evolution. Like in any other organised structure, hierarchy exists in our internal relationships. Ours is based upon the wisdom of several races. It is with the approval of this hierarchy that we turn to you.

Like most of you, we are in the quest of the Supreme Being. Therefore we are not gods or lesser gods but virtually your equals in the Cosmic Brotherhood.

Physically, we are somewhat different from you but for most of us humanoid-shaped.

Our existence is a reality but the majority of you does not perceive it yet. We are not mere observations, we are consciences just like you. You fail to apprehend us because we remain invisible to your senses and measure instruments most of the time.

We wish to fill this void at this moment in your history. We made this collective decision but this is not enough. We need yours. Through this message, you become the decision-makers ! You personally.

We have no human representative on Earth who could guide your decision.


Why aren't we visible ?

At certain stages of evolution, cosmic "humanities” discover new forms of science beyond the apparent control of matter. Structured dematerialisation and materialisation are part of them. This is what your humanity has reached in a few laboratories, in close collaboration with other "extra-terrestrial" creatures at the cost of hazardous compromises that remain purposedly hidden from you by some of your representatives.

Apart from the aerial or spatial objects or phenomena known about by your scientific community, that you call 'UFOs, there are essentially multidimensional manufactured spaceships that apply these capacities.

Many human beings have been in visual, auditory, tactile or psychic contact with such ships, some of which are under occult powers that "govern" you. The scarcity of your observations is due to the outstanding advantages provided by the dematerialised state of these ships.

By not witnessing them by yourself, you cannot believe in their existence. We fully understand this.

The majority of these observations are made on an individual basis so as to touch the soul and not to modify any organised system. This is deliberate from the races that surround you but for very different reasons and results.

For negative multidimensional beings that play a part in the exercise of power in the shadow of human oligarchy, discretion is motivated by their will to keep their existence and seizure unknown.

For us, discretion is motivated by the respect of the human free will that people can exercise to manage their own affairs so that they can reach technical and spiritual maturity on their own. Humankind's entrance into the family of galactic civilisations is greatly expected.

We can appear in broad daylight and help you attain this union. We haven't done it so far, as too few of you have genuinely desired it, because of ignorance, indifference or fear, and because the emergency of the situation did not justify it. Many of those who study our appearances count the lights in the night without lighting the way. Often they think in terms of objects when it is all about conscious beings.


Who are you ?

You are the offspring of many traditions that throughout time have been mutually enriched by each others' contributions. The same applies to the races at the surface of the Earth. Your goal is to unite in the respect of these roots to accomplish a common project. The appearance of your cultures seems to keep you separated because you substitute it to your deeper being. Shape is now more important than the essence of your subtle nature. For the powers in place, this prevalence of the shape constitutes the ramparts against any form of jeopardy.

You are being called on to overcome shape while still respecting it for its richness and beauty. Understanding the conscience of shape makes us love men in their diversity. Peace does not mean not making war, it consists in becoming what you are in reality: a same Fraternity.

To understand this, the number of solutions within your reach are decreasing. One of them consists in contact with another race that would reflect the image of what you are in reality.


What is your situation ?

Except for rare occasions, our interventions always had very little incidence on your capacity to make collective and individual decisions about your own future. This is motivated by our knowledge of your deep psychological mechanisms.

We reached the conclusion that freedom is built every day as a being becomes aware of himself and of his environment, getting progressively rid of constraints and inertias, whatever they may be. Despite the numerous, brave and willing human consciences, those inertias are artificially maintained for the profit of a growing centralising power.

Until recently, mankind lived a satisfying control of its decisions. But it is losing more and more the control of its own fate because of the growing use of advanced technologies, which lethal consequences on the earthly and human ecosystems become irreversible. You are slowly but surely losing your extraordinary capacity to make life desirable. Your resilience will artificially decrease, independently of your own will. Such technologies exist that affect your body as well as your mind. Such plans are on their way.

This can change as long as you keep this creative power in you, even if it cohabits with the dark intentions of your potential lords. This is the reason why we remain invisible. This individual power is doomed to vanish should a collective reaction of great magnitude not happen. The period to come is that of rupture, whichever it may be.

But should you wait for the last moment to find solutions ? Should you anticipate or undergo pain ?

Your history has never ceased to be marked by encounters between peoples who had to discover one another in conditions that were often conflictual. Conquests almost always happened to the detriment of others. Earth has now become a village where everyone knows everyone else but still conflicts persist and threats of all kinds get worse in duration and intensity.

Although a Human being as an individual, yet having many potential capacities, cannot exercise them with dignity. This is the case for the biggest majority of you for reasons that are essentially geopolitical.

There are several billion of you. The education of your children and your living conditions, as well as the conditions of numerous animals and much plant life are nevertheless under the thumb of a small number of your political, financial, military and religious representatives.

Your thoughts and beliefs are modelled after partisan interests to turn you into slaves while at the same time giving you the feeling that you are in total control of your destiny, which in essence is the reality.

But there is a long way between a wish and a fact when the true rules of the game at hand are unknown. This time, you are not the conqueror. Biasing information is a millenary strategy for human beings. Inducting thoughts, emotions or organisms that do not belong to you via ad hoc technologies is an even older a strategy.

Wonderful opportunities of progress stand close to big subdual and destruction threats. These dangers and opportunities exist now. However, you can only perceive what is being shown to you. The end of natural resources is programmed whereas no long-term collective project has been launched.

Ecosystem exhaustion mechanisms have exceeded irreversible limits. The scarcity of resources and their unfair distribution - resources which entry price will rise day after day - will bring about fratricide fights at a large scale, but also at the very heart of your cities and countrysides.

Hatred grows bigger but so does love. That is what keeps you confident in your ability to find solutions. But the critical mass is insufficient and a sabotage work is cleverly being carried out.

Human behaviours, formed from past habits and trainings, have such an inertia that this perspective leads you to a dead end. You entrust these problems to representatives, whose conscience of common well-being slowly fades away in front of corporatist interests, with those difficulties. They are always debating on the form but rarely on the content.

Just at the moment of action, delays will accumulate to the point when you have to submit rather than choose. This is the reason why, more than ever in your history, your decisions of today will directly and significantly impact your survival of tomorrow.

What event could radically modify this inertia that is typical of any civilisation ? Where will a collective and unifying awareness come from, that will stop this blind rushing ahead ?

Tribes, populations and human nations have always encountered and interacted with one another. Faced with the threats weighing upon the human family, it is perhaps time that a greater interaction occurred.

A great roller wave is on the verge of emerging. It mixes very positive but also very negative aspects.


Who are the "third party" ?

There are two ways to establish a cosmic contact with another civilisation: via its standing representatives or directly with individuals without distinction. The first way entails fights of interests, the second way brings awareness.

The first way was chosen by a group of races motivated by keeping mankind in slavery, thereby controlling Earth resources, the gene pool and human emotional energy.

The second way was chosen by a group of races allied with the cause of the Spirit of service. We have, at our end, subscribed to this disinterested cause and introduced ourselves a few years ago to representatives of the human power who refused our outstretched hand on the pretext of incompatible interests with their strategic vision.

That is why today individuals are to make this choice by themselves without any representative interfering. What we proposed in the past to those whom we believed were in a capacity to contribute to your happiness, we propose it now to ... you!

Most of you ignore that non-human creatures took part in the exercise of those centralising powers without them being neither suspected nor accessible to your senses. This is so true that they have almost very subtly taken control. They do not necessarily stand on your material plan, and that is precisely what could make them extremely efficient and frightening in the near future. However, be aware that a large number of your representatives are fighting this danger ! Be aware that not all abductions are made against you. It is difficult to recognize the truth !

How could you under such conditions exercise your free will when it is so much manipulated ? What are you really free of ?

Peace and reunification of your peoples would be a first step toward the harmony with civilisations other than yours.

That is precisely what those who manipulate you behind the scenes want to avoid at all cost because, by dividing, they reign! They also reign over those who govern you. Their strength comes from their capacity to distillate mistrust and fear into you. This considerably harms your very cosmic nature.

This message would be of no interest if these manipulators' tutorate did not reach its peak and if their misleading and murderous plans did not materialise in a few years from now. Their deadlines are close and mankind will undergo unprecedented torments for the next ten cycles.

To defend yourselves against this aggression that bears no face, you need at least to have enough information that leads to the solution.

As is also the case with humans, resistance exists amongst those dominant races. Here again, appearance will not be enough to tell the dominator from the ally. At your current state of psychism, it is extremely difficult for you to distinguish between them. In addition to your intuition, training will be necessary when the time has come.

Being aware of the priceless value of free will, we are inviting you to an alternative.


What can we offer ?

We can offer you a more holistic vision of the universe and of life, constructive interactions, the experience of fair and fraternal relationships, liberating technical knowledge, eradiction of suffering, controlled exercise of individual powers, the access to new forms of energy and, finally, a better comprehension of consciousness.

We cannot help you overcome your individual and collective fears, or bring you laws that you would not have chosen, work on your own selves, individual and collective effort to build the world you desire, the spirit of quest to new skies.


What would we receive ?

Should you decide that such a contact takes place, we would rejoice over the safeguarding of fraternal equilibrium in this region of the universe, fruitful diplomatic exchanges, and the intense Joy of knowing that you are united to accomplish what you are capable of. The feeling of Joy is strongly sought in the universe for its energy is divine.


What is the question we ask you ?

"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?"


How to can you answer this question ?

The truth of soul can be read by telepathy. You only need to clearly ask yourself this question and give your answer as clearly, on your own or in a group, as you wish. Being in the heart of a city or in the middle of a desert does not impact the efficiency of your answer, YES or NO, IMMEDIATELY AFTER ASKING THE QUESTION! Just do it as if you were speaking to yourself but thinking about the message.

This is a universal question and these mere few words, put in their context, have a powerful meaning. You should not let hesitation in the way. This is why you should calmly think about it, in all conscience. In order to perfectly associate your answer with the question, it is recommended that you answer right after another reading of this message.

Do not rush to answer. Breathe and let all the power of your own free will penetrate you. Be proud of what you are ! The problems that you may have weaken you. Forget about them for a few minutes to be yourselves. Feel the force that springs up in you. You are in control of yourselves !

A single thought, a single answer can drastically change your near future, in one way as in another.

Your individual decision of asking in your inner self that we show up on your material plan and in broad daylight is precious and essential to us.

Even though you can choose the way that best suits you, rituals are essentially useless. A sincere request made with your heart and your own will will always be perceived by those of us whom it is sent to.

In your own private polling booth of your secret will, you will determine the future.


What is the lever effect ?

This decision should be made by the greatest number among you, even though it might seem like a minority. It is recommended to spread this message, in all envisageable fashions, in as many languages as possible, to those around you, whether or not they seem receptive to this new vision of the future.

Do it using in a humorous tone or derision if that can help you. You can even openly and publicly make fun of it if it makes you feel more comfortable but do not be indifferent for at least you will have exercised your free will.

Forget about the false prophets and the beliefs that have been transmitted to you about us. This request is one of the most intimate that can be asked to you.
Making a decision by yourself, as an individual, is your right as well as your responsibility !

Passivity only leads to the absence of freedom. Similarly, indecision is never efficient. If you really want to cling to your beliefs, which is something that we understand, then say NO. If you do not know what to choose, do not say YES because of mere curiosity. This is not a show, this is real daily life, WE ARE ALIVE ! And living !

Your history has plenty of episodes when determined men and women were able to influence the thread of events in spite of their small number.

Just like a small number is enough to take temporal power on Earth and influence the future of the majority, a small number of you can radically change your fate as an answer to the impotence in face of so much inertia and hurdles ! You can ease the mankind's birth to Brotherhood.

One of your thinkers once said: “Give me a hand-hold and I'll raise the Earth".

Spreading this message will then be the hand-hold to strengthen, we will be the light-years long lever, you will be the craftsmen to ... raise the Earth as a consequence of our appearance.

What would be the consequences of a positive decision ?

For us, the immediate consequence of a collective favourable decision would be the materialisation of many ships, in your sky and on Earth.

For you, the direct effect would be the rapid abandoning of many certitudes and beliefs.

A simple conclusive visual contact would have huge repercussions on your future. Much knowledge would be modified forever. The organisation of your societies would be deeply upheaved for ever, in all fields of activity. Power would become individual because you would see for yourself that we are living. Concretely, you would change the scale of your values !

The most important thing for us is that humankind would form a single family in front of this "unknown" we would represent !

Danger would slowly melt away from your homes because you would indirectly force the undesirable ones, those we name the "third party", to show up and vanish. You would all bear the same name and share the same roots: Mankind !

Later on, peaceful and respectful exchanges would be thus possible if such is your wish. For now, he who is hungry cannot smile, he who is fearful cannot welcome us. We are sad to see men, women and children suffering to such a degree in their flesh and in their hearts when they bear such an inner light.

This light can be your future. Our relationships could be progressive.

Several stages of several years or decades would occur: demonstrative appearance of our ships, physical appearance beside human beings, collaboration in your technical and spiritual evolution, discovery of parts of the galaxy.

Every time, new choices would be offered to you. You would then decide by yourself to cross new stages if you think it necessary to your external and inner well-being. No interference would be decided upon unilaterally. We would leave as soon as you would collectively wish that we do.

Depending upon the speed to spread the message across the world, several weeks, or even several months will be necessary before our "great appearance", if such is the decision made by the majority of those who will have used their capacity to choose, and if this message receives the necessary support.

The main difference between your daily prayers to entities of a strictly spiritual nature and your current decision is extremely simple :

we are technically equipped to materialise!


Why such a historical dilemma ?

We know that "foreigners" are considered as enemies as long as they embody the "unknown". In a first stage, the emotion that our appearance will generate will strengthen your relationships on a worldwide scale.

How could you know whether our arrival is the consequence of your collective choice ? For the simple reason that we would have otherwise been already there for a long time at your level of existence ! If we are not there yet, it is because you have not made such a decision explicitely.

Some among you might think that we would make you believe in a deliberate choice of yours so as to legitimate our arrival, though this would not be true. What interest would we have to openly offer you what you haven't got any access to yet, for the benefit of the greatest number of you ?

How could you be certain that this is not yet another subtle manoeuvre of the "third party" to better enslave you ? Because one always more efficiently fights something that is identified than the contrary. Isn't the terrorism that corrodes you a blatant example ?

Whatever, you are the sole judge in your own heart and soul ! Whatever your choice, it would be respectable and respected ! In the absence of human representatives who could potentially seduce into error you ignore everything about us as well as from about those who manipulate you without your consent.

In your situation, the precautionary principle that consists in not trying to discover us does no longer prevail. You are already in the Pandora's box that the "third party" has created around you. Whatever your decision may be you will have to get out of it.

In the face of such a dilemma, one ignorance against another, you need to ask your intuition. Do you want to see us with your own eyes, or simply believe what your thinkers say ? That is the real question!

After thousands of years, one day, this choice was going to be inevitable: choosing between two unknowns.

Why spread such a message among yourselves ?

Translate and spread this message widely. This action will affect your future in an irreversible and historical way at the scale of milleniums, otherwise, it will postpone a new opportunity to choose to several years later, at least one generation, if it can survive.

Not choosing, stands for undergoing other people's choice. Not informing others stands for running the risk of obtaining a result that is contrary to one's expectations. Remaining indifferent means giving up one's free will.

It is all about your future. It is all about your evolution.

It is possible that this invitation does not receive your collective assent and that, because of a lack of information, it will be disregarded. Nevertheless no individual desire goes unheeded in the universe.

Imagine our arrival tomorrow. Thousands of ships. A unique cultural shock in today's mankind's history. It will then be too late to regret about not making a choice and spreading the message because this discovery will be irreversible. We do insist that you do not rush into it, but do think about it ! And decide !

The big medias will not be necessarely interested in spreading this message. It is therefore your task, as an anonymous yet an extraordinary thinking and loving being, to transmit it.

You are still the architects of your own fate...

"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?"

[nexonn]

a few months back theres tis program on tv quite interesting.. call 'rods'..

the tv program is about actual footages taken accidentally br people of some unknown flying creatures which r flying at such high speed that human eye couldnt catch them.. they can only be seen when playing those films at slow motion..

heres the offical website:
rods (http://www.roswellrods.com/)

[waltz]

i have got a footage of a flying UFO
how to post it up ar?

[jakob]

i have got a footage of a flying UFO
how to post it up ar?
hmm.. wat format is your footage in and how big is the file?

[Ah_Niu^]

UFO i not very sure But i can B sure tat there is Life Outside EARth, A Lot of lIfe too`

[Devon]

ya lo ya lo... maybe more advance human from other planet :laugh:

[LuV-AmanDa]

ya lo ya lo... maybe more advance human from other planet :laugh:
i totally belief in UFO sia... definiteli there r other beings other den beings on earth.......
btw here is a link http://1332.50megs.com/foto2.html abt e roswell crash.... shows e alien captured n e space craft wreakage..

[Ah Ben]

i totally belief in UFO sia... definiteli there r other beings other den beings on earth.......
btw here is a link http://1332.50megs.com/foto2.html abt e roswell crash.... shows e alien captured n e space craft wreakage..

Wah... :hairise:

[wlkp]

The unknown...
Suggestions from people interested in UFOs...

"May we regard GOD, SATAN AND THEIR GODS/ ANGELS
as alien civilizations which differ only on ideological grounds?"

And that UFOs had mentionings in the Bible as well
according to the following indications...

"The most important conclusion is that the first intelligent lifeform splitted in good (social and without class-differences) and evil (selfish, greedy and with masters and slaves), when it became possible to live on more planets. Then this first intelligent lifeform brought life to other planets, and these are we and the remaining aliens or angels. This theory is the only manner to explain and combine ufologic, religious and scientific problems.

UFO'S AND ALIENS IN THE BIBLE

Matthew 24:

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

2Thessalonians 2:

9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Acts 2:

21 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. 22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: 24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. 25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face,

GOD AS ALIEN CIVILIZATION
Genesis 1:

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Genesis 2:

1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

Genesis 1:

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

THE LORD AND HIS ANGELS (ELOHIM = GODS) ARE ALIEN MEN
Genesis 18:

2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw [them], he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, 3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant: 4 Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree: 5 And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort ye your hearts; after that ye shall pass on: for therefore are ye come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said. 6 And Abraham hastened into the tent unto Sarah, and said, Make ready quickly three measures of fine meal, knead [it], and make cakes upon the hearth. 7 And Abraham ran unto the herd, and fetcht a calf tender and good, and gave [it] unto a young man; and he hasted to dress it. 8 And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set [it] before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.

... 24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; 25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. 26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.

Job 22:

12 [Is] not God in the height of heaven? and behold the height of the stars, how high they are! 13 And thou sayest, How doth God know? can he judge through the dark cloud? 14 Thick clouds [are] a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven.

Isaiah 13:

4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of hosts mustereth the host of the battle. 5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, [even] the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.

Psalms 104:

2 Who coverest [thyself] with light as [with] a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain: 3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind: 4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire: 5 [Who] laid the foundations of the earth, [that] it should not be removed for ever.

Joshua 5:

13 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, [Art] thou for us, or for our adversaries? 14 And he said, Nay; but [as] captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? 15 And the captain of the LORD'S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest [is] holy. And Joshua did so.

Ezekiel 9:

1 He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man [with] his destroying weapon in his hand. 2 And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them [was] clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar. 3 And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house.

John 14:

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, [there] ye may be also. 4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. 5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 8:

23 Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world."

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/AndyPage/ufopictu.htm

Anyone care to comment if the pictures are not faked.
Is there any clues relating to the linking of UFOs
with the Bible?