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Skyes
06-05-2003, 01:27 AM
Is both the same thing ? I using singtel and i downloaded the wap n gprs setting. But i can't connect to wap using the gsm data as data bearer . Only can connect using the setting for gprs as data bearer. Am i connecting using gprs instead of wap ?
wap is charge by airtime..how long u use..then how much they charge....
gprs is charge by kb u d/l......when u d/l things...it takes up kb...when u onli open a page..it also takes up kb...
abt the charge on airtime n kb thingy..read another topic..posted be4.....or simply call ur service provider :gl:
aloius
06-05-2003, 10:23 AM
wap is charge by airtime..how long u use..then how much they charge....
gprs is charge by kb u d/l......when u d/l things...it takes up kb...when u onli open a page..it also takes up kb...
abt the charge on airtime n kb thingy..read another topic..posted be4.....or simply call ur service provider :gl:
I thinki you also feel tired after repeating the same answes everytime..must ask them to check woth their service provider...
voltshin
06-05-2003, 11:06 AM
I thinki you also feel tired after repeating the same answes everytime..must ask them to check woth their service provider...
yah lor... nowaday all the problem same one
aloius
06-05-2003, 01:37 PM
yah lor... nowaday all the problem same one
I got new problem..who can tell me why i go thru wap, download Janes java games, and the error msg is "page not found". Is the file being removed???
Also, my hp is nokia 6100. How come when people call me, they cannot reach me even though my signal bars in my hp is full? I am using singtel service, that why when they cannot get me, there will e a free sms service. That why i know....singel is the best in coverage...any solution???
I got new problem..who can tell me why i go thru wap, download Janes java games, and the error msg is "page not found". Is the file being removed???
Also, my hp is nokia 6100. How come when people call me, they cannot reach me even though my signal bars in my hp is full? I am using singtel service, that why when they cannot get me, there will e a free sms service. That why i know....singel is the best in coverage...any solution???
i got use wap or gprs to surf sum webpage...it says invalid data............ :confused: :confused: :confused:
aloius
06-05-2003, 04:04 PM
i got use wap or gprs to surf sum webpage...it says invalid data............ :confused: :confused: :confused:
should we ask godai, volt or dennis, maybe they are able to help??
hmm..think they will see one.....
voltshin
06-05-2003, 09:49 PM
i got use wap or gprs to surf sum webpage...it says invalid data............ :confused: :confused: :confused:
some page might got error then the server prevent it from loading, or too many ppl using the gprs to access it which cos traffic jam...
or the server is down or too bz lor... so connection to the wap fail
sometime server will be abit sot sot one.. whahah technology unstable
Skyes
06-05-2003, 10:11 PM
i tried connection to wap , it will dial up a number ? Is it the case ? but then i always get the invalid number .....can't dial in ......
voltshin
06-05-2003, 10:38 PM
i tried connection to wap , it will dial up a number ? Is it the case ? but then i always get the invalid number .....can't dial in ......
if its dialing a no. then u r using WAP instead of GPRS...
i tried connection to wap , it will dial up a number ? Is it the case ? but then i always get the invalid number .....can't dial in ......
try calling ur service provider fer more equiry...
Skyes
07-05-2003, 12:17 AM
ya .. i think i would be going down to singtelshop to ask them abt it ........ use wap seems to be cheaper leh ...., if dling a lot of stuff .... use gprs to browse then good ....
blixelX
07-05-2003, 08:31 AM
can use wap on gprs fone?? :confused: :confused:
can use wap on gprs fone?? :confused: :confused:
...nowadays phones r wap n gprs enabled liao....in ur hp..under the service setting..u can choose to surf the net by using wap or gprs mah....
voltshin
07-05-2003, 10:30 AM
if u gotta online with ur fone for long time, then i think use GPRS better....
if just to download things.. use wap better but if u wanna faster speed... use GPRS better....
actually almost same lor... but i simi also use GPRS
if u gotta online with ur fone for long time, then i think use GPRS better....
if just to download things.. use wap better but if u wanna faster speed... use GPRS better....
actually almost same lor... but i simi also use GPRS
to me i dun like gprs cos even opening a page also need kb....hiyo..like eat money like tt...
Skyes
07-05-2003, 11:00 AM
to me i dun like gprs cos even opening a page also need kb....hiyo..like eat money like tt...
i agree ...........
but use gprs u can slowly scroll ..... no need to care abt the time .....
yalor..both got pros n cons lor..... :confused:
styloxol
07-05-2003, 11:16 AM
to me i dun like gprs cos even opening a page also need kb....hiyo..like eat money like tt...
Well.. actualli bo pian 1..
so in order to save $$ while surfin GPRS, i will advise u to bookmark the wapsite u like..or if u realli need to use the wapsite within 5-10mins.. den dun disconnect ur GPRS 1st
so u can save $$ for the openin page liao lor
well.. this works for me ..as i'm using Singtel E-ideas GPRS counted by kb.. 1..
every month GPRS cost me less den 3-5bucks :laugh: :laugh:
styloxol
07-05-2003, 11:17 AM
to me i dun like gprs cos even opening a page also need kb....hiyo..like eat money like tt...
Well.. actualli bo pian 1..
so in order to save $$ while surfin GPRS, i will advise u to bookmark the wapsite u like..or if u realli need to use the wapsite within 5-10mins.. den dun disconnect ur GPRS 1st
so u can save $$ for the openin page liao lor
well.. this works for me ..as i'm using Singtel E-ideas GPRS counted by kb.. 1..
every month GPRS cost me less den 3-5bucks :laugh: :laugh:
aloius
07-05-2003, 11:45 AM
Well.. actualli bo pian 1..
so in order to save $$ while surfin GPRS, i will advise u to bookmark the wapsite u like..or if u realli need to use the wapsite within 5-10mins.. den dun disconnect ur GPRS 1st
so u can save $$ for the openin page liao lor
well.. this works for me ..as i'm using Singtel E-ideas GPRS counted by kb.. 1..
every month GPRS cost me less den 3-5bucks :laugh: :laugh:
same here..i also bookmark the wap page and just hook to the wap for less than 10mins, cost me less than $5 per month...
styloxol
07-05-2003, 11:54 AM
same here..i also bookmark the wap page and just hook to the wap for less than 10mins, cost me less than $5 per month...
yeah .. this is the best way to save $$ lor
:laugh: :laugh:
use wap is better..den usin ur phone to surf website..
surfin website damn expensive sia.. coz of the stupid pics.. waste more kb..haha
now i know liao lor....
d/l use wap...
surf use gprs!!!!!!(bookmark the page) :) :gl:
styloxol
07-05-2003, 12:05 PM
ar bo ..u use com to check out the wapsite 1st lor..
den from there get the address.. follow by use ur hp and get in the page lor..
also can save $$ wahahahahah..
:laugh: :laugh:
Skyes
07-05-2003, 02:07 PM
ar bo ..u use com to check out the wapsite 1st lor..
den from there get the address.. follow by use ur hp and get in the page lor..
also can save $$ wahahahahah..
:laugh: :laugh:
comp can open wap website meh ?
cheryl
07-05-2003, 02:37 PM
hmm... but GPRS will be billed seperately with the local usage costs on the bill wor.. i usally use WAP.. heh.. GPRS means extra $$ leh...
voltshin
07-05-2003, 03:16 PM
to me almost same lah.. now got infra liao then neber use GPRs that often liao
styloxol
07-05-2003, 03:39 PM
i also hab infra-red.. but quite ok lar..
but if i am outside den bo pian muz use wap/GPRS mah.. :D
anyway..www.tagtag.com
got a wap emulator...maybe can use tt to view wap site..using PC
---> to Skyes
voltshin
07-05-2003, 10:14 PM
i also hab infra-red.. but quite ok lar..
but if i am outside den bo pian muz use wap/GPRS mah.. :D
anyway..www.tagtag.com
got a wap emulator...maybe can use tt to view wap site..using PC
---> to Skyes
yah lor... but outside use GPRS to download what? hahah
ar bo ..u use com to check out the wapsite 1st lor..
den from there get the address.. follow by use ur hp and get in the page lor..
also can save $$ wahahahahah..
:laugh: :laugh:
but u surf net got stick to tt particular page onli meh?not browse here n there one meh???
dunbother
08-05-2003, 07:31 AM
but u surf net got stick to tt particular page onli meh?not browse here n there one meh???
web can surf to n from, here n there, but wap very limited leh, tell me wat to surf??? most common, people use wap, download, find out soccer result, traffic condition..... wat else?
web can surf to n from, here n there, but wap very limited leh, tell me wat to surf??? most common, people use wap, download, find out soccer result, traffic condition..... wat else?
u mean gprs can surf things more than wap can?i still dunno leh
dunbother
08-05-2003, 01:58 PM
u mean gprs can surf things more than wap can?i still dunno leh
i saying web can surf more, not wap, neither is it GPRS
styloxol
08-05-2003, 03:55 PM
well.. can also use for checkin mails.. or even booked cinema tickets..keke
save time..
voltshin
08-05-2003, 04:09 PM
frankly speaking... there isnt alot of wap site ard as i know of...
so i think its better for u guys here to share the wap site regardless of ringtone, movie, simi sai also can whahaha
styloxol
08-05-2003, 04:14 PM
too bad me use GPRS for these purposes..
if need to d/l alot of games..den i will use infra-red..
haha..
wanna surf things using wap or gprs is jsut fer urgent one lor..not urgent...can jsut wait go home then surf mah... :gl:
redginrai
09-05-2003, 12:48 AM
when in sch/lesson sian.. den use gprs to browse ard.. cho bo.. that was with my 8310.. surf here and dere oso nuthing much
now.. got new fone, use gprs to dl stuff.. after i got my IR.. haha.. shiok.. seldom use gprs liao..
all in all, gprs for mi is juz to do nitty bitty stuff, eg, movie listings.. news.. etc.. :D
dunbother
09-05-2003, 12:51 AM
wanna surf things using wap or gprs is jsut fer urgent one lor..not urgent...can jsut wait go home then surf mah... :gl:
true..... wap nothing much to surf, i use to check soccer result only
true..... wap nothing much to surf, i use to check soccer result only
yalah..fer ppl who bet on soccer lor...using wap/gprs can get to know fast results ma...hehehe..gan chiong mah....dunno the money fly away or more cuming in...hehehe :D
dunbother
09-05-2003, 01:54 AM
yalah..fer ppl who bet on soccer lor...using wap/gprs can get to know fast results ma...hehehe..gan chiong mah....dunno the money fly away or more cuming in...hehehe :D
lol :laugh: $$$$$$
Franky
09-05-2003, 02:01 AM
I surf things using wap or gprs is just cause I have nothing too do at school :D
I surf things using wap or gprs is just cause I have nothing too do at school :D
ah sia!!!!
ah sia=rich ppl
Franky
09-05-2003, 06:06 PM
hehe, yes rich ppl =p , I mostally use wap cause I can spent 150 minutes a month and I allways have some minutes left. So I spend them with wap :)
psychic
21-05-2003, 04:30 PM
Well.. actualli bo pian 1..
so in order to save $$ while surfin GPRS, i will advise u to bookmark the wapsite u like..or if u realli need to use the wapsite within 5-10mins.. den dun disconnect ur GPRS 1st
so u can save $$ for the openin page liao lor
well.. this works for me ..as i'm using Singtel E-ideas GPRS counted by kb.. 1..
every month GPRS cost me less den 3-5bucks :laugh: :laugh:
I tot the pages are saved in the cache of the phone to lessen downloading time ?
psychic
21-05-2003, 04:32 PM
well.. can also use for checkin mails.. or even booked cinema tickets..keke
save time..
Which wap page do u go to view the cinema listings or movie listings ?? Share leh ... thanks !!
psychic
21-05-2003, 04:34 PM
when in sch/lesson sian.. den use gprs to browse ard.. cho bo.. that was with my 8310.. surf here and dere oso nuthing much
now.. got new fone, use gprs to dl stuff.. after i got my IR.. haha.. shiok.. seldom use gprs liao..
all in all, gprs for mi is juz to do nitty bitty stuff, eg, movie listings.. news.. etc.. :D
where do u check for movie listings ?? Can share ?? Thanks alot.
elmoger
21-05-2003, 04:54 PM
yeah .. this is the best way to save $$ lor
:laugh: :laugh:
use wap is better..den usin ur phone to surf website..
surfin website damn expensive sia.. coz of the stupid pics.. waste more kb..haha
SORRIE... i also v blur wif tis wap and gprs and the wap over gprs... i alway tot e same until i read this....
so how do i noe i'm using the gprs or the wap... for me its always have he G on the top left hand corner.... thats indicate is gprs rite???
native87
21-05-2003, 06:54 PM
as for my case it's super slow leh... dunno why also... phone was simens ME45 then 7210 then 7650 then 8910I also the same leh...
Is both the same thing ? I using singtel and i downloaded the wap n gprs setting. But i can't connect to wap using the gsm data as data bearer . Only can connect using the setting for gprs as data bearer. Am i connecting using gprs instead of wap ?
wilson
02-06-2003, 01:40 PM
Golden Village
http://www.gv.com.sg/gv.wml
Wilson
Which wap page do u go to view the cinema listings or movie listings ?? Share leh ... thanks !!
bLuR_kInZ
09-06-2003, 01:32 PM
Some Server for wap files r actually removed and thats the reason y when u download things from it but when u open, it show invalid file or format.
hondaek4
09-06-2003, 05:54 PM
which provider charge more ? st, sh or m1?
ryan_quek
09-06-2003, 08:47 PM
but got different plan for some of the providers mah
c which plan u refering to loh
qutie_10
10-06-2003, 03:00 AM
actually i think i rather use gprs than wap, it is cheaperfor me lar
Extirpator
10-06-2003, 03:41 AM
Wireless Application Protocol (WAP)
- Wireless Application Protocol: a set of communication protocol standards to make accessing online services from a mobile phone simple.
- WAP was conceived by four companies: Ericsson, Motorola, Nokia, and Unwired Planet (today called Phone.com). The WAP Forum is an industry association with over 200 members. Symbian is a full member of the WAP Forum.
-- The WAP protocol is the leading standard for information services on wireless terminals like digital mobile phones. WML is used to create pages that can be displayed in a WAP browser.
General Packet Radio System (GPRS)
- General Packet Radio Service: a radio technology for GSM networks that adds packet-switching protocols, shorter set-up time for ISP connections, and offer the possibility to charge by amount of data sent rather than connect time. GPRS promises to support flexible data transmission rates typically up to 20 or 30 Kbps (with a theoretical maximum of 171.2 Kbps), as well as continuous connection to the network. A 2.5G enhancement to GSM, GPRS is the most significant step towards 3G, needing similar business model, and service and network architectures. GPRS started to appear in some networks during 2000.
Circuit Switched Data (CSD)
- Means of creating a connection by setting up a dedicated end-to-end circuit, which remains open for the duration of the communication.
http://www.symbian.com/technology/glossary.html
Verri
23-04-2004, 01:34 PM
Can someone help ?
Using WAP to download is charge by airtime _M1 10cents/min . No other charge beside that?
Using GPRS is charge by kb ? example . if i go to www.wap.***.com to download a ringtone about 3kb. Go to that website it will charge you also right even no download? Therefore the total charge will be
[3kb ringtone + website kb] ? 1 kb is 1 cent? by the way how to i check the website size kb?
So to say it may be cheaper to use WAP if download alot of Games ?
And GPRS cheaper if use to download ringtones/mms ?
lyk13
24-04-2004, 08:41 AM
Can someone help ?
Using WAP to download is charge by airtime _M1 10cents/min . No other charge beside that?
Using GPRS is charge by kb ? example . if i go to www.wap.***.com to download a ringtone about 3kb. Go to that website it will charge you also right even no download? Therefore the total charge will be
[3kb ringtone + website kb] ? 1 kb is 1 cent? by the way how to i check the website size kb?
So to say it may be cheaper to use WAP if download alot of Games ?
And GPRS cheaper if use to download ringtones/mms ?
Wap using CSD connection, or the most 'recent' version is HSCSD(High-Speed Circuit Switch Data) is counted using connection time.
Wap using GPRS/EDGE is counted using the amount of data you download. It also has a slower data transfer rate as compared to CSD/HSCSD.
You are correct, you are downloading the wap page, usually 1kb or abit higher, and the ringtone you are also downloading too.
But bear in mind, if you use CSD/HSCSD connections to download games, you are using more time to download, this might make up for the differences of using GPRS/EDGE to download. So I really wun say that u use CSD/HSCSD to download is cheaper. It could even be more expensive and more air-time you have to pay.
Wapsite size? U can't check on the phone de.
Sparkle
06-05-2004, 06:50 PM
A silly question to ask.. (i dun noe mah)..
How do you access the GPRS?? the wap i know is that there's a "internet" thingy on the handphone which can access the wap juz by entering the wap address... but for GPRS leh???
Thanx for answering.... :grin:
lyk13
06-05-2004, 07:06 PM
A silly question to ask.. (i dun noe mah)..
How do you access the GPRS?? the wap i know is that there's a "internet" thingy on the handphone which can access the wap juz by entering the wap address... but for GPRS leh???
Thanx for answering.... :grin:
GPRS is the medium that you use to access 'internet'(WAP) on your handphone. GPRS is otherwise known commonly as the data rate that you use. Like Singnet BB is 256kbps, 512kbps, Starhub MOL is 1500kbps etc. GPRS is not so high, maybe less than 56kbps, I kinda forgot.
Sparkle
07-05-2004, 11:46 AM
Hmm.. then how do i noe whether i'm accessing WAP or GPRS??
lyk13
07-05-2004, 08:02 PM
Hmm.. then how do i noe whether i'm accessing WAP or GPRS??
U are using GPRS to access WAP....:bw:
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