What is "backdooring" in DotA?

[Holy_Chicken]

I'm kinda new to DotA. But as far as I know, backdooring means attaking towers or building without creeps support.

So this is my scenario:

I was pushing in mid lane, then i killed all the creep wave and entered the base. I destroyed the mid tower, killed creep waves, and then entered their base then start attack the base building (rax, towers, etc). At the point of time, the opponent team heroes were all dead and creeps wave at mid lane already cleared. But the opponent team accused me for backdooring. Is this considered backdooring? According to this scenario, what can i do to avoid backdooring? Wait untill another creep wave to come out? Wait until opp heroes come out?

I'm looking for a detailed explanation. For i really not sure what is backdooring. Please do not give irrelevant, joke, or meaningless answers. Thanks.

[starinn]

you are correct. it's no creeps support you attack tower. it's illegal in some games.

cannot avoid. just stand there like idiot and wait for the creeps to come or u go luh. haha.

[Holy_Chicken]

you are correct. it's no creeps support you attack tower. it's illegal in some games.

cannot avoid. just stand there like idiot and wait for the creeps to come or u go luh. haha.

Serious? o_O? I must wait for creeps to come out? Like that very.... retarded, IMO.

[yugi_J_J]

What you are doing is not really considered back-dooring but is actually called "creep skipping". That is u attack the base without any creeps with you and it is actually legal in CAL tournament contrary to what most people normally think. In TDA tournaments however, creep skipping is onli allowed after 1 hr where heroes are farmed up and teams shld be competent of defending against such attacks. This rule differs however with diff tournament and u shld check the rules before joining one.

In pub games, it is LEGAL to creep skip. If anyone doubts this, do check the quest info(F9) in the game under the rules section. However, though it's legal, the common consensus among most pub playerss is that Creep Skipping shld not be practiced and gamers shld have "gamesmanship" and not do that. Instead one should wait for creeps and push together. Clearing creeps alone is fine but attacking towers alone is something that most pub gamers disagree with. I however hold a neutral stand since it is allowed after all by the rules and if our team cannot defend from such attacks, perhaps we really deserve to lose.

Backdooring is when u enter the opponent's base using other means other than walking in from the front such as furion teleporting in or blinking into the trees and many more creative ways that ppl can tink of. That is the correct definition of backdooring. This definition has often been blured by many noobs out there acting pro and it is often useless in game to explain this correct definition to those noobs so what i would suggest is just tell them to shut up and read the Quest info (F9) where they will realise that creep skipping and backdooring is different and despite the difference is still legal.

However, unlike creep skipping, i do not encourage backdooring since it's reali quite a !@^%$ act and most gamers agree with me too. Backdooring spoils a game and makes the opponent lose respect for you as a gamer at times.

As for what you are doing, i would tink it is perfectly fine as you have after all cleared all their heroes but some gamers might however disagree and advise u to wait for the creeps before clearing the base. However in a tournament, what you did would be perfectly legal and winning the game base on is perfectly fine wif me.

Hope this answers your qns and if there is any probs wif my ans do point it out as technical terms can change from time to time and my definition might have been outdated already =x

[Holy_Chicken]

yugi, thanks for your sensible answer and very clear definition. Your explanation cleared my doubt and fully answered my question.

Hence, your reply is the best answer of my question.

Thanks to starinn for her answer, too.

[starinn]

wahhh! very long. so it's only the base of the opponent then considered??

cos there was once i hitting the 2nd tree tower only, then they say i backdoor ):

[yugi_J_J]

wahhh! very long. so it's only the base of the opponent then considered??

cos there was once i hitting the 2nd tree tower only, then they say i backdoor ):

That's creep skipping. Backdoor onli involves going into base.

Ppl say u are backdooring coz they dun understand the correct definition of backdooring and normally if u try to "teach" this ppl the correct definition, u will juz end up kenna STFU by them so normally i dun reali care as long as i noe i'm right.